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User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4142 times:

How about meeting this weekend to discuss a possible contact with airport operations. Lets give it our best shot by being all involved! Please post what day/time works for you.

Hisham.

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User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

I can make it on Sunday, either morning or afternoon. Gotta be at work by 4 though. Vitaly will make it there too, but if it's too late, someone will have to give him a ride.

Alex.



Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

Unfortunately this weekend Im not really available, Im back east for break and am flying back on Sunday morning, but my Eagles are playing so I'll have to be in front of a TV for that...nonetheless don't let me hold you guys back on this if Im the only one who can't make it...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1589 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4037 times:

I can't make it until mid-February. Someone keep me posted an what your guys find out...

Mark Abbott
Denver, CO



A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man...
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

I have called and had numerous email exchanges with Ops and the City and County people over access to the hill and other areas. All of this taking place over a year's time. Numerous attempts, same response. Personally I don't think this is the right time to persue access, that hill isn't going anywhere. Tread lightly if your going to do this.

Jeff


User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

Jeff,

You're not joining us? You should if you can.

Alex.



Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3994 times:

I think the most important factor is that whatever we do, we do it as a group. All photogs instead of one person asking may make a huge difference. I don't mind waiting until the level of risk is lowered.
All I'm saying is lets meet on sunday and discuss those issues. I'm sure we can agree on a plan. If later is better, so be it.

Hisham.


User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3991 times:

How about sunday at 10 am?

Hisham.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

Im scheduled to land at DEN at 11:45 AM on Sunday, and I have to be back in my dorm at Boulder by 2:30 at the latest to catch the kickoff of the Eagles game, so that would mean that I'd have to leave the airport area around 1:30, so between 12-1:30 I would be free at the airport if that helps...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3944 times:

Hisham,

Denver at 10am sounds great. Now, which place should we meet up at? As for going as a group, we should definitely wait until the paranoia goes down a little bit and so does the alert level. We should also wait for Mark Abbott and others to join us... we should all go as a group. Oh yeah, and Airport Ops building is closed on Sunday anyway  Big grin.

Looking forward to meeting you all again, Jeff, be there too. I still need to give you a copy of Photoshop CS, and that would be a good place to do that.



Alex.



Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

How about the parking lot near the gas station on 78th st.

Hisham.


User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3924 times:

Conoco gas station? Count me in, I'll be there with Vitaly. Aaron said he's showing up too.

Alex.



Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

Great, I still haven't met Aaron.

Yes, Conoco.

Greg, I'd rather meet early. For all those who can't make it, I'll post the issues raised during the meeting.

Hisham.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3917 times:

Ok thats fine with me...hopefully Ill catch up with you guys at a later date...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3913 times:

Greg,

You should try and make it. Call us up from the terminal, we'll pick you up. Good luck to Eagles by the way  Big grin.

Alex.



Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

Does Craig Mills know about this? Can anybody email him?

Hisham.


User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

So we're meeting on sunday at 10 am by the conoco gas station on 78th st. Hope to see you all then!

Hisham.


User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

Denver Crew. I wiill be at Conoco in the morning at 10am. Finally get to meet Mr. Hisham. Will be a morning of good spotting, although until I get my 300D in a couple of weeks I will not be shooting any pics because lack of my B-300 converter, **tears running down my eye**.... Ahem, anyhow...


See you soon..

Aaron Mandolesi
Denver, Colorado


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

Aaron - As you know I also have the same camera as you (and almost every other photographer in DEN) and don't have the Teleconverter, the only thing I cannot do, is take pictures of narrowbodies on 35L


I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

Alright, I suppose it's all final, so we'll meet up at Conoco at 10. If you can make it - be there. If you can't - well, tough shit, be there anyway Big grin.

Alex.



Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

I want to thank everybody for showing up today! I wasn't expecting the meeting to be that successful. I think the Denver police deserve special thanks for their time and understanding specially under the current conditions.


I still can't believe the cops have a poster size photo of me in their car!!  Nuts The last few weeks have been quite stressful for me but I don't regret my decision to do my photography with all the risk involved. I apologize if my presence has caused you any inconvenience in your spotting. Hopefully, we can reverse that soon.

Hope to see you all in the field!

Hisham.


PS Make sure you print your fine art!!


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

I'll second what Hisham said. I was the "doubting Thomas" going into this, but maybe with a little luck this will work out. I was impressed at the overall level of interest generated today. I think at one time we had 4 police cars there with us.

I will email everyone when I get contacted by DPD or the guy from the FBI in regards to the first meeting. Things just might be looking up.

Now we just need to fill in Greg, Mark, Craig, and ?? Did I miss someone?


v/r
Jeff



User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

For those who weren't there,

Like Jeff said, we're waiting for a call from the DEN police regarding the meeting with ops and FBI. That should be within a week or two. Naturally, nothing is decided until then. Links to your photos will be needed. A few prints will also be helpful, have them ready before the meeting. Some other personal information may be needed but that will have to be negotiated among us and with the authorities.

Let us know if you're interested.

Craig was out of town. He's interested in joining us.

Hisham.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Hi fellas...

Sorry I couldn't make it today, my flight was delayed by about 75 minutes and so I had to head straight to Boulder after landing in order to catch the kickoff...

Im definitely interested to hear about the meeting and plans for this get together for this impending meeting with the authorities...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Had lots of fun, and excitement!

Nice to meet Jeff (Finally, really nice guy) and Chris, as well as seeing everyone out there again.

Productive meeting.

Remember to have 2 or 3 good shots for the meeting (which time will be negotiated and planned)

Vitaly
(Mile high Aviation Photography  Big thumbs up )



I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
25 Post contains links Vafi88 : Seems like Mile High Aviation Photography is taken.... the website is: http://www.mhap.cjb.net I think, but the website has become inoperative (just p
26 An-225 : I just want to thank everyone who showed up, and those who didn't - we'll defnitely meet up later as an entire crew. Hopefully we will work through is
27 Cficraigapa : Hey everyone, it's Craig. I finally sucked it up and decided to pay the small fee to get a membership. Sorry I wasn't able to attend the meeting yeste
28 Post contains images Hisham : The term "Mile High Club" refers to two people engaging in sexual activity (sexual intercourse) at an altitude of no less than 5,280 ft (a mile high a
29 USAFHummer : I'd say its a safe bet that thats not a good name for us haha...on another note, can anyone recommend a place in the Boulder area where I can go to ge
30 Post contains links Hisham : Greg, I tried most labs in Boulder. You can get better deals and quality online. http://www.ofoto.com is my favorite. The only problem is that they on
31 JeffM : If they have a Wal-Mart up there, just bring 'em there and run them off on the Fuji Frontier machine. Very good prints, very inexpensive. And in an ho
32 USAFHummer : Amazingly I dont think there's a Wal-Mart here Jeff...Boulder must surely be high on the list of largest cities without a Wal-Mart... Greg
33 JeffM : Actually, I think Walgreens or Rite-Aid is doing them on the same machine. Same with Sam's Club and or Costco if you have membership there. If not, We
34 USAFHummer : No car yet...hopefully starting Fall 2004 I'll have that which will also make getting to DIA to spot a lot easier...so basically Im at the whims of RT
35 JeffM : guys, finally got a reply from my 'source' at DIA. Things are not looking good. But, he is not an OPS guy, so maybe there still is something that can
36 An-225 : When he meant airport personell, does that mean someone with a badge? If yes, we have 3 guys here who have badges - me, Tim and Aaron. Alex.
37 USAFHummer : This is not good...I really don't like the vibe of that Jeff...one thing I do have for when we meet with them is a copy of the Airways issue that did
38 JeffM : Good point Alex. I am not too worried over this response based on the office it came from. If I had known where exactly this guy worked, I would not h
39 Post contains images Hisham : I'm not too worried neither. I got the same response when I asked for access to the hill even before the orange alert. The "no trespassing" sign has b
40 FrontierA319 : Hey Guys, I finaly joined. It was nice meeting you all and I look forward to more meetings. Chris Dalebout Denver, CO
41 Hisham : It's been almost 2 weeks since the meeting. Jeff, how about calling Romero? Hisham.
42 JeffM : He never mentioned a timeline. If he is a man of his word, he will call.
43 Brick : Guys, I'm really out of the loop here because I've been away on travel the past 5 weeks. I'm kinda lost as to what you guys have done, what has been p
44 DLKAPA : I know this is somewhat short notice, and with security issues and all, how about meeting tomorrow (monday Jan 26th) at the conoco on 78th. This would
45 Post contains images Vafi88 : DLKAPA - look outside your house man, the weather is terrible... Mark, we went to the conoco to talk over it, and we proposed to go in as a group and
46 USAFHummer : My last class ends at 3 tomorrow...and Im at the whims of RTD still if something should happen... Greg
47 DLKAPA : At the time I posted the message, it wasn't snowing. But when I left for work, it was terrible, and not to mention coming home at 9:00. 4wheelin all t
48 Vafi88 : What's the Dealio guys??? How are the replies from the ops office, and what's the deal with Officer Romero??? (I'm just having withdrawal symptoms...)
49 JeffM : I called officer Romero today via dispatch around 9am. He has not returned my call. The PAO has ditched us as well. {post 35}. I may try again tomorro
50 Hisham : Why don't we contact ops directly to find out what happened? We can say that we want to know which locations we can access before resuming our spottin
51 JeffM : I will attempt to call officer Romero again Friday morning. Maybe he was busy and didn't get the chance to call me back. If there is no response from
52 DLKAPA : Good advice, Jeff, as getting wierd looks from the hicks that live out there wasn't very pleasant. DLKAPA
53 Post contains images Hisham : That works too... If we can't get officer Romero on the phone, I'm sure he'll find us in the field If you're going to rwy 26, watch out for "no trespa
54 Vafi88 : Den guys - Just make sure not to ruin it for ALL of us and do something Stupid (like tresspassing).... They could quickly change their stand on us...
55 JeffM : They have already changed their 'stand' on us Vitaly, the only person that hasn't is Romero, and like I said at our little meeting, I'm not sure he is
56 USAFHummer : "I do know how to get their attention though." That sounds somehow diabolical and evil...like a mad scientist...whats up your sleeve Jeff? Greg
57 FrontierA319 : That sounds somehow diabolical and evil...like a mad scientist Indeed it does. Just what are you stirring up Jeff? Chris.
58 JeffM : I have spoken with Officer Romero. He said he will probably have more information for me by this weekend. NO promises...
59 Hisham : That's great news!!! I suggest we (re)suspend spotting until then. Hisham.
60 Post contains images Vafi88 : Jeff - ...more information... We haven't gotten ANY info....
61 DLKAPA : I can confirm that the no tresspassing signs aren't up yet by runway 26, but they are up on the eastern end of the property by 35R, but I make no plan
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