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User currently offlineVir380 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2002, 621 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2183 times:

For the people who moan and whine that they cannot get pics accepted because they dont own a digital camera please just take a look at the below picture...Fantastic quality , clear and bright !!  Smile

the lesson is do not give up, with a little time and patience you will get your pics accepted ..


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Photo © Peter de Groot



good luck all Tony



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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

Not quite!! To take such great shots such as Peter's, takes years of experience and thousands of pounds worth of equipment, a beginner picking up a film SLR could not produce the sort of quality that Peter does!

Cheers

Dan


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

Yeah i lik thos picture where you can do instant adds. Like Peter de Groots for example.
Peter



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User currently offlineMia777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 1165 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Sam Chui as well...some sick slides...


MIA777
User currently offlineBoieng747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

Or Tim Feise, who only shoots Digital, or is this the wrong thread  Big grin



Cheers,
Tim


User currently offlineLjungdahl From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 907 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

...what's "digital"...??  Big grin


User currently offlinePH-OTO From Netherlands, joined Mar 2002, 434 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

Great work Peter and Tim!
Look closely and you can see yourself in the engine cowling Laugh out loud

Martin

Wietse, have you already converted back to slides after this one?



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User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2055 times:
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Thanks for the plug Big grin

Actually I was not quite happy with this scan, somehow the grain came out more strongly and the colors aren't quite right. At the next slideshow I'll pop this one in so we can see it in its full beauty Smile

Tony is so right, you definitely don't need a digital camera to get shots up here. Then again Dan is also right: it takes some experience to get slidescans accepted here, both experience with photography and with scanning/editing.

Cheers
Tim



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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

Martin,

You go shoot some slides in this weather and I'll join you ok?

I do think (as I said earlier) I will have a film body with me loaded with some film. K64 or Provia is yet to be determined  Smile

Wietse



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User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2009 times:
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For those interested, an untouched scan.

http://www.pbase.com/image/25137008

I cropped it to remove the black borders and I removed all dust, otherwise unedited.

Tim



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User currently offlinePH-OTO From Netherlands, joined Mar 2002, 434 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

In this weather? What on earth are you talking about!


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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Nothing  Smile just that I am not converting into anything when looking at this horrible weather!

BTW, for those of you interested, here is a digital RAW file of PH-BFI landing at the same location as Tims shot:

http://home.planet.nl/~degraaf001/sk/030510_164330_2.jpg

BEWARE: 2,5 MB

Wietse

EDIT: Take in mind that it was shot using my old lens. (75-300 USMIII)

[Edited 2004-01-14 23:13:49]


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineTonimr From Spain, joined Jan 2001, 325 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

a beginner picking up a film SLR could not produce the sort of quality that Peter does!

Neither a film nor a DSLR.  Wink/being sarcastic

Toni M







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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5055 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

Maybe I am missing something here......

I think Tim's big photo has lots of grain. nice shot, but way too "dirty". Wietse's digital RAW is much, much better in quality. The overwing picture in the original post is a great photo though.

I think digital has much potential, but of course there are still going to be those film/slide "purists".

bruce



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User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 1704 times:
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I never said my scan was better in quality than Wietse's RAW file!

Tim



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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Just to make it clear, I didnt post my RAW to make Tims shot (which as a matter of fact is very good for a K64 scan) look bad. Slides are better in all applications, apart from showing them online.

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineMartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

No offence here Wieyse, but your RAW pic look a bit soft and uncut. Do you fix it up?


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User currently offlineUTa_FLYinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

BTW, what scanner did you use ?

UTA



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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

Martinair,

A RAW is exactly what it is, RAW. It is out of my camera without any editing... Offcourse it looks soft!

This is the final edit of the shot:


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So you see that it makes for a fantastic sharp image.

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineN178UA From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1680 posts, RR: 65
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1419 times:
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The biggest joy of shooting slide is when you get them back from the lab, open it up, look thru your loupe or under light box, especially those full frame action ones, oh boy, the joy is just there, after weeks of wait and you know you finally got the good ones you hope for, nothing beats it....

Cool shot Peter!

Sam


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