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Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?  
User currently offlineRedfox From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

All,

Have received e-mail from an editor of a Dutch aviation news website who informs me one of my photos is being used at http://vliegtuigen.web-log.nl/

I looked at the site and recognised lots from airliners.net, are any yours?

The site looks non commercial but I cannot read Dutch, Is there any legal advise anyone can give?

Stephen Fox

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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3703 times:

Just send an E-Mail to
teun777@hotmail.com
and they remove the pics.
Peter



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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3669 times:

Stephen,
I just went to that site, and he openly complains on the first page about your (and someone else's) email and the removal of the pictures. This guy obviously doesn't know that to use someone else's pictures, you need to ask permission. Politely asking for the use gets you a lot further in life than just taking. He'll learn one day, I guess...
Cheers,
Eduard


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3665 times:

I just replied to him...

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3644 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Good job Wietse Smile

Tim



Alderman Exit
User currently offlineRedfox From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3631 times:

Hmmm, I would just like to say I was contacted by the editor of a Dutch/Belgian aviation news site who informed me that one of my photos was being used with out any kind of copyright/referencing information. It would appear that the owner/editor of the website in question is taking news from my Dutch/Belgian friend and photos from photographers contributing to this site and claiming to be his (without any kind of reference).

When I studied toward my Honours Degree this kind of practice was called plagiarism and therefore ILLEGAL.

Eduard, I have just visited the site again and you are right - again I don't understand Dutch so could someone please translate his message:-

Al het nieuws is tijdelijk verwijderd omdat 2 vliegtuigspotters het niet goed vonden dat ik 1 foto van hun op deze site heb gezet. Die ene (Stephen Fox) zegt, dat als ik dat plaatje een jaar op mijn site wil hebben, 300 euro moet betalen, anders sleept hij mij, en deze site (wat dus geen bedrijf is) voor de rechter. Dit is dus echt heel erg overdreven...
Over een tijdje is de site weer volledig operationeel

I find the message quite offensive as all he had to do was e-mail me and ask for permission (like others) and it would have been granted instead he rips me and others off claiming (implying) all work is his but when the circle tightens names me not others!!!

Stephen Fox



User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3629 times:

All news messages are temporarily on hold because 2 photographers didnt agree with me putting 1 of their shots on this site. One of them (Stephen Fox) says that if I want to have a pic of his on my site for 1 year, he wants 300 euros, or else he will sue me and this site (which happens to not be a company). This is very exagerated. In a while the site will be fully operational!


Plus he called the post 'Egoism'

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineEbos From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3619 times:

Think he got a second reply on his homepage Big grin

Sven



An-225 stalker: 1 x LUX, 1 x EIN, 1 x DXB, 2 x SHJ, 3 x CGN
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3616 times:

lol Sven... Smile somehow its always more fun to deal with Dutch trespassers  Big grin

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineEbos From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3617 times:

Seems the site is off-line now... looks like the problem is solved Big grin

Sven



An-225 stalker: 1 x LUX, 1 x EIN, 1 x DXB, 2 x SHJ, 3 x CGN
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3610 times:

Job well done  Big grin

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineRedfox From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

Wietse,

Thanks for translating the message, what is meant by 'egoism'?

Would just like to add, the purpose of the post was to inform fellow airliners.net photographers and crew that their work was being used in an inappropriate manner and as a united front should act against plagiarism.

Stephen Fox


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Egoisme was the word, sorry for the typo. I guess it translates into you being Egocentric. Because you refused him to have that pic online.

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

"Egoisme" in Dutch means "Selfishness"...


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3533 times:

How could I not think of that word  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineRedfox From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

Well, I did not actually refuse photo usage just pointed out, it and others were apparently stolen I wanted a usage fee because of that.

I don't think that is selfish just acting after theft of my property.

The circle was closing in on the site and the remark of 'Egoisme' I am sure was aimed at many including the author if 'his' news articles.


Stephen


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