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User currently offlineUA935 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 5343 times:

Hello,

This is my first post on Airliners.net and I am after some advice.

I currently use a Canon EOS 5 and a Fuji Finepix S5000.

I am looking to trade in the above and purchase either an EOS 10D or a 300D.

From what I am told the internals of the cameras are identical but I would like some views from users of the equipment, has anyone used both models? Which is better?

Is the EOS 10D likely to be replaced in the near future?

Which should I go for?

Links to photos taken with the above?

Thanks for your help.

Simon.


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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 5299 times:

They are not identical on the inside. The imaging sensor is the same, but the 10D has far more advanced features and options. One notable difference is the AF, the 10D reigns supreme in that aspect.

Wietse



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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 5297 times:

The 300D and 10D have the same insides, but some functions on the 300D are limited. Externally the 10D has a more solid body and the command screen is on the top with view screen on the back. The 330D has everything on the back. The 10D has the Canon dial on the back to page through functions while the 300D uses arrow keys.

Some people really don't like the "cheap" appearance of the 300D and it's light weight and fear damage to it. (Having used a film Rebel that has the same type of build I think the fears are not warranted. I am hard on my cameras and the Rebel got beat up but still hangs in there with no serious dings.)

The 10D currently has no replacement in the offing. Certainly it will be replaced, but by looking at the photo news areas, not this year.

Either camera is a good buy. If money is an issue go with the 300D. If you can pop for the extra couple of hundred, go with the 10D. Both very good cameras that will meet your needs.

10D samples (but remember everything has been post processed and edited to meet anet standards.)

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Do a search for 300D or Digital Rebel for other samples.

Cheers, Tony


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 5278 times:

I was seriously considering the 10D. I opted for the 300D and I am very happy with it. It is very light weight. With the Canon 100-400mm L IS, feels kind of awkward, but, Ill get used to it. I am not one to carelessly bang my camera around (accidents do happen I know), so I didnt really care about the body being made of plastic. I feel it is well put together. Just my opinion though.
Good luck in trying to decide.

Chad



User currently offlineCraigy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5117 times:

Think along the lines of film cameras.

10D = EOS-33

300D = EOS-300

Check the Canon website for the specs to see what the 300D is missing in terms of functionality. Perhaps these other functions are more important in other areas of photography - for example, functions like mirror lockup and rear curtain flash sync would not be much use if all you wanted to do was take photos of aircraft in daylight.

regards,
Craig.


User currently offlineSpotterboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5093 times:

Hi! First of all - welcome to the forums!

I bought my Canon 300D about 1 month ago - after all - I'm very happy with it. I got used to its features very quickly.

Another (big) difference between these 2 is:

Canon 300D is less expensive! If you have enough money, go for the 10D, but the 300D is a very very good camera! If you want to wait a few weeks, Nikon will launch its D70 programme. Should be same standard than the 300D.

Oh BTW, here are some Canon 300D shots  Big thumbs up


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Very good shots IMO  Laugh out loud

regards. Florian


User currently offlineUA935 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5029 times:

What are your thoughts on a second hand D60?


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User currently offlineMartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5013 times:

Does anyone think that the 300D is worth the money or is it a waste of $1400 (with 2 lenses)?

For a whole $800 i can get the 10D.
Also, if there an Autofocus problem with the 300D or is is like any regular SLR camera. I ahve a Minolta 5000i SLR which autofocuses like a beauty. Would the D300 be on an equal or above level?

Cheers



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User currently offlineMikec From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 247 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

I hardly think people could describe a 300D as a waste of money! It's like a 10D on a diet  Smile/happy/getting dizzy If you've never used the extra 10D features then you probably won't miss them on the 300D. If you've maybe come from one of the higher end film SLRs to a 300D you may miss some features and be better off with a 10D. As far as image output goes, they both produce stunning pictures with the right lenses and photographer. Look at Florian's excellent pictures above - a DSLR costing less than $1000 (USD) and producing pictures like that isn't a waste of money in my opinion.

If you can afford a 10D with no problem and need the extra features then go for it - it's still the superior camera through level of control and better AF performance (although I find the AF on the 300D excellent.......although I've never used a 10D so can't compare). If you aren't made of money, then don't hesitate to look at the 300D (or new Nikon D70) as a viable alternative - it's not just some cheap DSLR wannabe!


User currently offlineUA935 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4998 times:

Where is it that you are able to get the 10D for $800 from? Do they do mail order?


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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

Think of it that the extra features on the 10D may become useful one day as you get better or learn new stuff in photography.

I for one never even looked at the 300D when it came out just when I decided to buy my 10D. I plan on keeping the body for quite a number of years to come and definitely find the extra features on the 10D useful.


User currently offlineSpotterboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4990 times:

--- Look at Florian's excellent pictures above...

Hell yeah, that's what I want to hear  Big thumbs up

I don't think the 300D is waste of money, it is producing excellent shots, but if you have 300-400 USD more, go for the 10D!

I did not have a large budget because I decided to get 2 new lenses, so I chose the 300D, I did not make any bad experiences with the 300D yet.

BTW: Yes, where do you get a 10D for $800 ????  Insane

regards, Florian


User currently offlineMikec From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 247 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

Likewise....I'd love to know where you can get a 10D for $800, but I suspect he meant $800 more than the 300D?? Over here the difference (body only) between the 10D and 300D is about GBP 400, which equates to about $720 at the moment, so that could be what he meant! I don't know if the difference is that big in the US or Canada though - things aren't as cheap here!

It's true Florian......they really are lovely pictures! INN looks so cool!

[Edited 2004-02-25 20:34:08]

User currently offlineMartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4974 times:

I'd like to know the chap 10Dplace too... someone mentioned that the Nikon D70 is coming out at the same price (??) as the 300D... Will it be better and more options or is the 300D the preferred one?

Cheers



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User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4948 times:

Beware of these magazine ads that say "Blowout! Canon 10D for $809!!! Nikon D100 for $799!!!". These are GREY MARKET cameras, and do not come with serial numbers OR warranties. I know this because I was going to jump on a $809 Canon 10D deal, but after finding that out, I took Sven DeBevere's advice - get a "decent" camera, and get the very best glass (lenses) that you can afford. Don't waste a thousand bucks on something that may work fine for a week or two, and then die - then you've blown your money.

After learning all of that, I bought a 300D, and I have ZERO regrets. The 300D is an amazing camera, and will do everything I want and then some. Maybe someday if I go professional I'll put my 300D on E-Bay, and pay the difference to upgrade to a 10D. At this point I don't see a need for that!

Go for the 300D!

DREW



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User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4869 times:

Martinair-

The Nikon N70 BODY ONLY will be the same price as the 300D WITH the 18-55 lens. So they're not exactly the same price!

Drew



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4853 times:

I heard Nikon's are Canon's redheaded step childs.  Big grin

User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4818 times:

Or if you "REALLY" want to blow your wad of $$$$$, wait until the new model of Canon EOS comes out in April. The Canon EOS 1D Mark II !!
It is only going to be about $4500.00. It will shoot 8fps and it is going to have 8 megapixels !! That is the one for me  Smile !!

Jay


User currently offlineMdwalkman From China, joined Oct 2001, 208 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

Canon just limited a number of functions to distinguish with 10D. The hardware(e.g. memory buffer chip) in 300D is almost the same with 10D. I believe Canon will release new firmware to "release" the functions that are banned to make the camera a lot powerful (probably same as 10D?) to combat with Nikon D70.


Please excuse my poor English.
User currently offlineUA935 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 4735 times:

Is the Autofocus the same on both the 10D and the 300D?


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User currently offlineUA935 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months ago) and read 4720 times:

Florian,

What lenses do you use?

Your photos are stunning, I particularly like the Lauda 737NG.

P.S. I got my first photo accepted today after a number of rejections, I am very happy:D

Regards Simon.

[Edited 2004-02-29 21:54:24]


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User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4644 times:

Simon-

Don't be shy, PLUG it!!!


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That's what the 300D can do in low light, with fog! Awesome camera!!!

DREW



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User currently offlineUA935 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Hey Drew,

What Lens do you use?

Regards Simon.



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User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Simon-

Believe it or not - that photo was taken with the 18-55mm lens that came with the Canon Digital Rebel (300D)! I use UV filters to protect the glass, but other than that - that's right out of the camera. I did adjust the lighting a bit in PhotoShop, but I did not colorwash it - that's pretty much how it came out of the CF card.

I also have the Canon 70-300 IS USM lens, and I'm quite happy with it. These images came from that lens:

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I looked at the 200mm 2.8 L lens at the camera shop yesterday, and even though I'm sure it takes GREAT photos, I doubt I can get spousal approval for another $2000 purchase. For now I'm happy with these two lenses, but an L is on my wish list!

Hope this helps!

Drew



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User currently offlineSpotterboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

Hi Simon!

I'm using a Canon EF-S 18-55mm


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and a Tamron 70-300mm lens. I can highly recommend it! An amazing lens!


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Enough plugs for now...  Laugh out loud

regards, Florian


25 Skymonster : UA935, I notice you use a Canon EOS-5 at present. If you really use that camera and the functions that it offers, I believe that you're going to find
26 UA935 : Hi Andy, Thanks for your post, could I ask what equipment do you use? I am pretty much set on the 10D now. I am off to Tokyo in June and am thinking o
27 Skymonster : Simin, D60 with 100-400L-IS. If I had my time again, I'd go 10D (I was a long term EOS-5 user too) but of course the 10D wasn't available when I bough
28 MartinairYYZ : Is the EOS-300D autofocus' bad? I have heard a few negatives about it..... Also that the images are slightly soft. Is this true? Cheers
29 Post contains images Fallingeese : Martin, all images out of DSLR's are soft by nature. It is designed this way to provide the photographer more flexibility in post processing. A proud
30 Post contains images Andrewuber : Martinair- No, the 300D's autofocus is not bad. I have looked into this, as I was wondering why my 75-300mm IS USM seemed to focus a bit slowly - it's
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