Bigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2804 times:
You're doing wonderfully, Matt. I like seeing you trying new things and creaitng your own style. Great stuff.
Personally, I love what you were going for, but I would say that even the photo that was accepted should have been rejected, but could be re-framed for acception again.
The motive you're going for is to include the fueselage and the engine it seems. Because of that, there should be a closer equivilance between the space on the outer side of the fueselage and the outer part of the engine.
That shot that was accetped, let's say. The space on the right side of the engine is a lot smaller than the outside space to the left of the fueselage.
If that imbalance is what you want, I would say to reverse it and have the bigger gap on the outside of the engine than the cockpit. I just think that would be more visually pleasing.
The AA767 shot is great, I just think it's too tight on the right side to the plane.
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2752 times:
The first rejected shot, I agree is similar to the one that got accepted (which I don't understand), but is too 'off-balanced' I feel. The second is once again not centered, and I don't feel that the Skyline is pronounced enough to warrant the angle.
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2738 times:
I like the quality in the two off-center shots, but I personally don't think that type of crop does the shot any justice. They appear awkward to me. The skyline shot is nice, but could have been done in landscape and would have made it in I believe.
TZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2696 times:
I was the screener who gave the TACA Peru A319 shot the final vote for acceptance. This screening business is not clear cut, and both this image and your (rejected) AA 757 shot were deliberated over at length.
Please allow me to explain my personal thoughts on the two photos:
1. You are clearly "pushing the envelope" a bit with both shots, and I'm very pleased to see that - it makes screening more fun to see some new angles!
2. The A319 is a tighter crop, with more detail in the undercarriage, and more detail on fuselage, etc, and the runway is more level. The "mohican" stripe also really catches the eye on the A319. However, these are not factors which affected the "badcentre" question...
3. For me, the reason one is badcentre, and the other is not, is quite clear... The AA 757 is turning away from the "empty space" - it looks uncomfortable. The A319 is turning into the "empty space", creating a nice sense of "anticipation" in the shot.
The A319 shot looks to me like the result of a good deal of forethought and planning, and you've frozen a moment in time, rather than just taken a picture of an aircraft.
Perhaps my explanation is not clear - if so, tell me. If you strongly disagree, then please appeal the AA 757 shot.
I can honestly say that the accepted A319 image was the most pleasing image I screened today - it really "worked" for me.
Now, be gentle everybody... This is my first posting to this forum since becoming a screener.
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Photopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2769 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2685 times:
First off, don't get discouraged. I think the horizontal should have been accepted. Great detail and sharpness.
However the vertical photo of the AA 757 is another story. It definately needs to be cropped much tighter. There is too much wasted space in the frame that honestly doesn't contribute to the overall composition.
Taking a few liberties, I have re-worked your photo as shown below just to give you a little inspiration as to how a tighter crop could be to your advantage. Hope you don't mind me playing with your image a little. Also apologies to Flight International for using their name for illustration purposes.
All the best and I hope you're inspired to keep shooting and producing some great images.