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Polarizer Filter... Yes Or No?  
User currently offlineRoots From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5541 times:

I'm thinking of getting a polarizer filter so I can darken/lighten the sky. I'm curious what other photographers think of using polarizer for photographing airplanes.

BTW, I can imagine a problem being not able to rotate the filter with the lens hood on.

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User currently offlineHisham From Lebanon, joined Aug 1999, 701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5336 times:

I use it mostly to make clouds look more dramatic and to reduce glare on the fuselage. If you just want to darken the blue sky, photoshop will do the job.

One problem is that polarizers eat a lot of light (I think up to 2 stops). It also won't have an effect if the sun is directly behind you. Shoot at 90 degrees from the sun for maximum effect.

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User currently offlineKC7MMI From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 854 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5320 times:

I leave the polarizer on my 50mm lense most of the time. I am really pleased with the affects that I have pulled off with it...below are some examples:

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You definately should invest in a polarizer filter. When used properly it will do so much more for your photos. It can also reduce glare off of windshields and instrument panels.

-Benjamin


User currently offlineWoody001 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 529 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5267 times:

Benjamin,

They are two great shots, very nice blue skies, Big thumbs up something we've been lacking here in England the last couple of weeks. Crying

Ian.



If I could just get the afterburner working...
User currently offlineKC7MMI From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 854 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5236 times:

Thanks Ian. I'm sorry to hear about your dreary weather. We've had a lot of that wet weather over here too, but since we're always dry with clear skies, we welcome clouds and rain.  Smile

-Benjamin


User currently offlineRotor1 From Tajikistan, joined Mar 2003, 230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

I use a polarizer every now and then, usually to slow up the lens or get me blue skies. I probably should be using it more to kill reflections, but I'm lazy  Big grin

Using photoshop to deepen skies is one thing, but a polarizer adds a whole 'nother dimension


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User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2098 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5139 times:

Dark blue skies and puffy clouds aside, it does seem to increase colour saturation doesn't it?


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User currently offlineRotor1 From Tajikistan, joined Mar 2003, 230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

I think it does increase saturation because it gets rid of any reflections that could dull up the color. No window reflections = a plus, and it lowers the required shutter speed/f-stops which is cool. Only downside I can find is that on my camera (which isn't exactly a D1 or anything) it increases the visibile noise significantly. No biggie.

Spent some time playing with it the other day... nice.


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User currently offlineDaren3006 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

I've never used a polarizer. I've heard though that you need to turn it until you get the shot you want. Is this correct? One reason I've not used one is I feel that I wouldn't be able judge the best shot looking through the view finder. I guess that may just be a little self doubt from a newbie.

Daren


User currently offlineKC7MMI From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 854 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

Yes, you need to turn the filter to adjust for maximum sky darkness....but it's not too bad. The results are so worth it!

-Benjamin


User currently offlineLugonza_2001 From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 315 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

"Yes, you need to turn the filter to adjust for maximum sky darkness....but it's not too bad"


Hi!

If you have to turn the filter till you get the view you desire, will not you get out of focus as you turn the filter? I guess i should turn the filter before i focus, right?

I am planning to get a filter, my camera is auto-focus, Should i get a circular or a linear polarizer?


Thank You!

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

Circular, linear only doesn't work with AF.

Staffan


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4979 times:

That depends. If you have a lens with a fixed front element you can fit a linear polarizer on it. A fixed front element is one that doesnt rotate during the focussing, a lot of Canon L lenses are designed that way

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1224 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4979 times:

Polarizers are fantastic especially in landscape photography. I use it a lot there. It darkens the sky in certain angles. However I almost never use it while photographing airplanes except in rare cases when I like to avoid reflections in windows. I think polarizers make metal on planes look a bit dull.


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User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4966 times:

Wietse, AF systems in cameras have problems focusing through a linear polarizer, that's why it's usually circular filters that are used with these. Difference between a linear and a circular is that the circular filter (which in fact also has a linear element) has a second element between the linear filter and the lens. This element "unpolarizes" the light in a circular way to make it possible for the AF to work.
This is why it's so difficult to AF through polarized windows such as the ones in cockpits, they are linear.

Staffan


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