Aagold From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 542 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1622 times:
You're right there isn't anything about Newark for several reasons. Over the past couple of years it's become very difficult to shoot at EWR and the pleasure in doing so is really not there. Almost anywhere you go you are chased away quickly. I can remember spending hours in the Ikea lot across the turnpike shooting inbound 04 and outbound 22 operations. Now they call the Elizabeh PD and you get chased out. As you do in the long term lots under the 22 approach. Stopping on the NJTP isn't recommended as I'm sure the police would not like it and probably give you a ticket for stopping without a good cause. You just can't hang on the side of the NJTP for hours
And, I guess another big reason is the traffic. About 85 to 90% of the traffic is CO blue tails of all degrees. Not that they aren't nice to shoot, but you can only shoot so many before you get bored.
JFK is my airport of choice for several reasons. First, for the most part, it's pretty much hassle free. You're shooting off grounds from public locations and most of the time don't get bothered by the local authorities. They might come check you out but I've never been chased away to date. And the variety at JFK is just so much more. With all the foreign carriers and the heavies it's just more interesting.
I'd like to go back to EWR and shoot more, but it's just not worth the hassle to me.
JohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1620 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1607 times:
"I can remember spending hours in the Ikea lot across the turnpike shooting inbound 04 and outbound 22 operations. Now they call the Elizabeh PD and you get chased out."
The last time I was there the Elizabeth PD didn't even have to be called - there was a police Explorer sitting in the parking lot all day long. I thought first it was just parked, but when I checked more closely it turned out there was an officer in it. Even so, I managed to shoot without any hassle for about an hour, although the shopping center security truck came by once and looked me over pretty carefully. If I had been chased off, it would have made for an interesting situation. My wife was in the Toys 'R' Us store shopping, while I stayed in the car with our 2-year-old son. If they had asked us to leave, I would have called my wife on her cell phone, instructed her to make a big production of putting the $200 worth of merchandise she was buying back, and made sure she let the store manager know why she was leaving without making her purchase.
I concur that JFK is by far the better place to spot, but there are airlines that serve only EWR, and I was hoping for a bit of variety. What I came back with was a bunch of Continental shots and mediocre shots of Lufthansa and TAP Portugal A340s.
Aagold From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 542 posts, RR: 52 Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1586 times:
I've thought about exactly the same thing ... sending the wife in to shop while I take pics, but the cops would probably say "OK, you can stay in the lot, but you can't take pictures." Either which way you probably wouldn't win. OH, and about the wife making a big stink and leaving. Tell her to fill the carriage with a few thousand dollars worth of merchandise so they hurt a bit. With the money that store pulls in $200 means nothing.