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User currently offlineJakbar From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 442 posts, RR: 21
Posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

First, let me make clear up front...I have already appealed this rejected photo because I really like it, and that's what the appeal process is for. What I wanted to do is solicit some input about this photo because I (obviously) disagree with the fact that it should have been rejected in the first instance. Here's the photo:


It was rejected for badmotiv. I am upset because lately I have seen some really weird pictures get accepted (including a picture of a bird with a plane in the background), but yet my picture is rejected when I try to do something a little different. I was really excited about this photo when I saw it on my computer screen for the first time.

Please let me know your comments. Thanks...


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User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4093 times:

Very nice shot you got there! I find two things disturbing though:
1) The little leaf and part of the branch that is covering part of the nose of the aircraft.
2) The aircraft is quite far away.

Other than that, nice going, hope the appeal comes through!  Big thumbs up


I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

Nice concept, but it is too far for me as well. BADMOTIVE is probably right. The branch kills it for me also. It might have been more pleasing if the light was better, and if there were a little less tree/shrub in the frame.


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3269 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4069 times:

Looks good Josh. Looks like the light was a lot better for you, than it was for me on the 772 shot. Mine came out pretty dark.  Sad Here is the best of the collection from Saturday, with what you were trying to do:

Good luck on the appeal.

Yay Pudding!
User currently offlineKarlok From Netherlands, joined Mar 2002, 839 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4064 times:

the leaf in front of the aircraft nose disturb me.

User currently offlineBigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4058 times:

If the shrubs were also in focus, and the nsoe wasn't blocked, I'd say it would have a chance.

Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineFutterman From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1301 posts, RR: 40
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Yep, the branch'll probably piss Johan off as well. Is that the only shot with cherry blossoms you got? Get on AIM some time, I might be able to swing something.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Phil: I think by having the blossoms in focus as well, you lose the emphasis on the plane. Sorry, but no matter what he does, only I can get 'BadFutt'.  Big grin

Old shot, I know...

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What the FUTT?
User currently offlineJakbar From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 442 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4028 times:

Futt -

The weather was less than cooperative that day, so that was actually the only shot I could get with the sun hitting the plane at exactly the right moment. Look at Burke's link to the BMI A332 above and you'll see what I'm talking about.

And thank you for posting the link to that older picture...I was looking for that as an example of why I did not want the cherry blossoms in focus. I think it looks better that way, but we're all allowed to disagree. I also wanted to see it because I remembered that the plane in that picture was also at a considerable distance away from the camera (as in my picture).

And as for the branch...if that's the only reason why my pic got rejected, then so be it. It doesn't bother me, and I tried to make the best of the poor weather. And besides...my wife (the non-aviation-enthusiast) likes the picture enough to put it on her computer background...and that's enough for me! Big grin

[Edited 2004-04-07 18:41:17]

User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 3977 times:

Thanks futt that's the picture I was thinking of when i read this thread. I hadn't seen that one in years. The thing with Josh's pic is, the flowers don't envelop the plane all around, just on the edges, and yes truth is a blue sky was needed there. If you could crop it a little it might look better, I personally think the whitish cloud above the airplane, even more than the branch on the nose, detracts from the image.

That JAS 777 shot is just beauty of orgasmic proportions man.

User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 3970 times:

i am 100% sure that the JAS pic above wouldnt be accepted by today standards .... , though it is nice ...


User currently offlineWoody001 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 529 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 3956 times:

Ok so it got rejected. I think it will get rejected at the appeal process also.
Personally I really like the shot, but I feel that it isn't the kind of shot that A.net is looking for at this present time.

I have loads of images that I feel are great, I would not upload them here, as sadly they wouldn't get a look in on A.net because they are to 'arty'

I think the most important thing to remember is that you think the shot is really nice and that should be why you take photos.

If you just go out to shoot for viewing figures on A.net then I'd sell the gear.


If I could just get the afterburner working...
User currently offlineCabbott From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 497 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 3951 times:

Something artistic is what's missing around here Josh.

Of course I'm talking about a small and realistic proportion. The standard side profile lamppost straight, hotel roof straight is just plane boring.

I like your ideas and keep having these ideas because that's what will make you a better photographer. The abilities to look at things from different perspectives. Unfortunately it was rejected, maybe in the past it would have passed.

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I wonder if the above would have been accepted by todays standards. Shame if it wasn't because I was lucky to make some good money from this one.

Congrats anyway.

User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 382 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 3941 times:


I really like the shot but it is the leaf over the aircraft that is the major negative point and if the a/c was central it would have a better impact.

Personally I love to see something different especially from the boring same old shots location, Colin's shot above illustrates that well and yes I would say we would accept it today.

Here's a similar different type of style shot accepted the other day

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User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 3915 times:


I like the shot very much. I think the weather really is a factor here. UAL and the grey sky happen to be similar colors, so the plane is dominated by the color of the trees.

As you know, I tried the same shot several times, and none of mine came out as well as this "badmotiv" example.

Keep shooting!

- Curt

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User currently offlineMx330 From Mexico, joined Oct 2002, 844 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 3912 times:
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I also say that the leaf on the nose is a probable BADMOTIV fact and also it looks a little bit too far away for me.

Nice shot anyways, good luck with the appeal and if you don't get it accepted try it again another with better weather!

Juan APM

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