TZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 57 Posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15193 times:
All
Please could I urge you to ALWAYS try to complete the "construction number" field when uploading in future?
I you use the "I Fell Lucky!" button (which everybody should, and may soon become mandatory), then you will be presented with an option of construction numbers to choose from.
If you don't know the number, then please may I ask that you spend a moment visiting the excellent (and regularly updated) http://www.airlinerlist.com ?
Always list Boeing and McD construction numbers in full (eg 26310/2680).
The information may be irrelevant or superfluous to you, but it is extremely valuable information for the airliners.net database. It takes only 10-20 seconds to look the information up each time, so it's not too onerous.
If you do not complete the info, then one of two things will happen:
1. We (the screeners) have to look the information up for you. Not only is that tedious for us, but it also means the screening slows down to a crawling pace.
2. Your photos are accepted without complete info, compromising the completeness of our database. Our correction editors will then have to spend countless hours adding the information in.
So, please, please spend a few seconds per upload to get the information entered.
Thanks very much!
Tamsin
TZ Aviation - Aeropuerto de los Banditos Team Images
Timdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 73 Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15121 times:
Thanks Tamsin!
Indeed, lack of c/n is no reason for rejection but it adds to the completeness of the database.
What is a reason for rejection is lack of full type designation on common aircraft. I still come across a lot of shots with say 737-3.. when it's a lufthansa 737 with 30 shots in the db.
Granite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5514 posts, RR: 72 Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15063 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW HEAD SCREENER
Hi all
Even have a pre-check on Airliners to see if the same aircraft has been uploaded already.
Me.........I don't care for construction numbers at all but feel it is my duty to try and find them as the field is there for completing. Some people out there keep track of these and I am happy to enter the details for them.
QF747 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 164 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15046 times:
During my early days of uploading I was one of the people who use to do
747-4... or 767-2... However, in recent times I believe that using the "I Feel Lucky" button, also helps me keep the pictures complete on my computer's own database. So I agree with the screeners above, that when ever you upload the photos please fill all fields including the construction numbers.
Also I think if anyone still does 747-3.. or anything like that when uploading their photo, it should be rejected for "baddata".
Bronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 804 posts, RR: 15 Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15026 times:
QF: Do remember there are many photographers on here who primarily shoot at Boeing Field, or Toulouse. As such, data such as the full (737-QYZ) type and construction information might not be available yet. That should not stop someone from uploading a photograph however.
Screeners: I have many photo's of partially painted Boeings in the database, that have now been painted and delivered. Would you like me to research the full type & construction number information, and submit corrections? I have been thinking about this recently.
TZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 57 Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 15012 times:
Bronko: We do, of course, consider the availability of the full-version information before rejecting for badinfo. For example, I screened the new "AirBridgeCargo (Volga-Dnepr) Boeing 747-2..." this morning, and I was unable to identify exactly what the version should be. But it is important enough that we should add it anyway. When the full info becomes, I certainly hope the photographer will send an update ("correction").
Yes, in the interests of keeping the database thorough and accurate, we'd like you to send "corrections" for your partially-painted pics.
Thanks all!
Tamsin
TZ Aviation - Aeropuerto de los Banditos Team Images
Mia777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 1165 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14976 times:
Another request....Could a link to the photos currently in the database of the same registration be added to the page after the "I feel lucky" button has been pressed?
Sleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2043 posts, RR: 29 Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14965 times:
I use google at lot when getting data on an a/c by simply entering the reg number. But that leads to a question: is the "Serial Number" that they list the same thing as the construction number?
Bronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 804 posts, RR: 15 Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14961 times:
Mia77: That is a great idea, something I would find very useful. I will usually do a search for the aircraft after the autocomplete fills in the data, to cross check the data, especially when it offers multiple choices.
Karlok From Netherlands, joined Mar 2002, 838 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14947 times:
I always try to fill in all fields when uploading a photo.
But sometimes I discovered when I press the "I feel lucky" button now c/n is available while the c/n number does exist in the database with the registration.
And second, I recently added all c/n to my photo's
Bronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 804 posts, RR: 15 Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14907 times:
I have been browsing through the spreadsheets at http://airlinerlist.com, that site provides a tremendous amount of information. Thanks for pointing it out.
Jakbar From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 441 posts, RR: 36 Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14911 times:
I just visited airlinerlist.com for the first time after Tamsin suggested it....and it is a terrific source of information! It took me about 1 minute to find the c/n for a UA triple-seven that I had picked out at random from my collection. I would like to echo Tamsin's "plea" for people to enter this information in when uploading pics...it takes barely any time at all, and it is such a benefit to the a.net database.
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3039 posts, RR: 18 Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14904 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW HEAD DATABASE EDITOR
As a corrections editor, I would like to second Tamsin's request that you supply complete c/n info when you upload photos. If you have been unable to do this in the past but are willing to supply corrections now, please do so. Although a backlog of 7,500 corrections exists, there is no queue whatsoever of "photographer only corrections." If you send in corrections for your own photos, they will be processed within minutes at best or in a few days at worst.
And to reiterate, please list Boeing and McD construction numbers in full (eg 26310/2680)! Although simply writing "26310" is better than nothing, you'll make our lives much easier if you simply add the number in full. No exceptions for Portuguese spotters! (You know who you are!)
In the meanwhile, the corrections editors will continue to work throught the database to supply c/n info for the older photos of various aircraft and airlines. Just as an example, I've recently added the cn to all the Valujet, original "Frontier", United & Delta DC-8s, and Delta DC-9 photos, among others.
So you Europeans don't feel left out, I also managed to get Peter to add Titan Airways & Astraeus to the drop-down list on the main page. More improvements will come soon.
707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 40 Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14841 times:
As much as I personnally have no use whatsoever for the C/n, I make a point of honour filling it.
However, as Karlok said, sometimes, the "I feel lucky" button does not give the c/n, even though there is already one in the dB. Oh well, in those cases it takes me a mere 30 more seconds finding the right information (at least, I don't have to leave A.net)
Google is a terrific tool. In the last three months, only one aircraft failed to give me its c/n through it. In that very case, I added a special note to the screeners, explaining no c/n could be found by traditional means, and they perfectly understood.
Lindy Field, you can be afraid, I am currently going through my DR400 list (a single prop absolutely not standardised on A.net... ). I have over 50 of those in the dB. Some have their c/n, most don't. Anyway, most of the information on them is non standard, so be prepared to see a huge bunch of dB corrections in the next days (I must note although that all of those DR400 have had their c/n if they have been uploaded less than 8 something moths ago )
Jaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14830 times:
It's great when photographers submit loads of corrections for things like the cn, each single entry improves the quality of the database and makes your photos easier to find for visitors
Surely you photographers want all the data with your photos to be complete?
And it does help us - I've added recently all the cns for Bmibaby, and that took quite a while, and there are only 434 photos of the airline in the database! I've got MyTravel and easyJet coming up, they're going to take forever
RG828 From Brazil, joined Jan 2004, 580 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14778 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW PHOTO SCREENER
I always enjoyed filling in the extra data, its educating and fascinating to find out the history of a particular aircraft. I do it for sheer pleasure actually, and Airlinerlist.com has always been a permanent fixture in my favourites list.
sometimes I get stuck though, take this one for example:
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 54 Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 14753 times:
Cpn360 From Belgium, joined Mar 2004, 200 posts, RR: 59 Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 14700 times:
Hi all,
Just updated all my photo's in the database.
With www.airlinerlist.com and www.scramble.nl as mentioned above, you will find back all info needed for 99% of the aircraft.
But be aware when blindly taking over info that already exists in the DB: I discovered a lot of errors on CN, ln and aircraft versions...
What I suggest when uploading/updating, is that you check out other photo's and see most of them have for example the same CN/ln and if this is not the case, you can and must refer to airlinerslist/scramble.
Just my input of working...
Serge
[Edited 2004-04-25 10:12:36]
[Edited 2004-04-25 10:13:46]
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Bronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 804 posts, RR: 15 Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 14647 times:
"What I suggest when uploading/updating, is that you check out other photo's and see most of them have for example the same CN/ln and if this is not the case, you can and must refer to airlinerslist/scramble.
Just my input of working..."
That is why several are asking for a link to other photos of the same aircraft on the upload page, after you enter the registration number. Would be helpful, as many people do this to cross check data.
Jaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 14642 times:
Serge and others, thanks for all the corrections that you've all submitted today, had loads
Tom
25 FemaleFan: Another great site that provides lots of information is http://www.aerotransport.org! It's better to subscribe for 35€/year, but it works for free t
26 Olympus69: I have to confess that I have been very casual about entering the c/n - usually not doing it. I promise to do better in the future. I use an Excel spr
27 Benyhone: A few of my favorites: Civil * RZJets - http://www.rzjets.net ... This is quickly becoming an online JP Airline Fleets. Loads of records added daily,
28 Kereru: Thanks Tamsin for bringing this up. I spend a fair percentage of my time filling out this info and you would be surprised at the number of regulars th
29 Aviator100: Good starting points for searching c/n's by registration are: - Howard Curtis' Aviation Links: Aircraft Registers: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hjcurt
30 Paulc: Reinstate the 'private' category then I will add c/n's again - not before
31 707cmf: Paul, if you want to have private, just select "Others"" then "Private" 707
32 Paulc: I tried that and got my **** kicked so not really sure I want that to happen again. Perhaps a mod can confirm what you suggest is acceptable now - it
33 Aviator100: Paulc, Why is it that you make a connection between the category "private" and not filling in construction numbers? Those are totally unrelated to eac
34 Ckw: The term "Private" is incorrect, because an aircraft without titles is not necessarily a private aircraft I think this is exactly Paul's point - he wa
35 Paulc: Well said Colin. Ad, the vast majority of light aircraft I upload are private, just because they do not have titles does not mean they are not private
36 Lindy: Hi All, Yesterday I corrected around 200 pictures, big chunk of those pictures had wrong customer number (or no customer number at all),and wrong airc
37 Cathay112: Some people can't even manage to use this website correctly - the Auto Complete function obviously wasn't used for this upload. Uploading this as a Bo
38 Karlok: Well, In my opinion the Auto Complete function needs a lot of fine tuning. Sometimes it gives 3 to 4 aircraft models. 2 different c/n numbers and some
39 Cpn360: Baddate??? IMO, this only can happen when sometimes meeting colleague photographers...
40 Karlok: Baddate??? IMO, this only can happen when sometimes meeting colleague photographers... LOL, ofcourse I mean bad data.
41 Paulc: am correcting loads of my pictures adding 'PRIVATELY OWNED' in the remarks column as getting nowhere in getting 'private' category reinstated. ps - ov
42 Paulc: Have also found several where an operator has been added yet no sign of titles on the aircraft - very inconsistant and frustrating having to correct d
43 Delta777-XXX: I'm surprised that so many photographers are so supportive of filling in the CN. I think it's totally ridiculous. If someone wants such specific infor
44 Glennstewart: Hi All, Thanks Tasmin for starting this thread. As a screener, I know that quality is often the focus. Information is just as important. While screeni
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