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User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3432 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

Could someone explain whats wrong with these?
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=IMG_2651dwklas04242004.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=IMG_2642dwlas04242004.jpg

thx
Daniel

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User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5524 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1472 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

Daniel

Sensor dust visible.

One way to check, depending on size of monitor being used, is slide the bar at the botton of the web browser quickly back and forwards and you will be able to see it.

One spot on each of your images.

A Baddirty rejection reason is also a hint for you to clean or get your sensor cleaned.

Cheers

Gary

User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1466 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1464 times:

it is pretty shity , if u have dustspots on ur censor .... , i have right now some 3 dustspots on my sensor, so i allways have to clone them away before uploading .....
but, i actually cant see any on the above images, where are they?

robin


ABC
User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3432 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1461 times:

I don't exactly know how to see that? Where is that dirty spot?
Can I fix it in PS?

[Edited 2004-04-29 14:21:44]

User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1459 times:
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The second one is badborder also. A bit of self screening wouldnt hurt here eh?

Peter

[Edited 2004-04-29 14:23:10]

[Edited 2004-04-29 14:29:13]


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User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3432 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1456 times:

Same here:
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=IMG_2627dwklas04242004III.jpg
where is that dirt?

[Edited 2004-04-29 14:24:30]

User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5524 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1448 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

Danny

Been screening for almost 5 years now............I can see dead people in some images too  Wink/being sarcastic

If uneasy about sensor cleaning, use the clone tool is Photoshop.

In the Aloha shot - above the L and O half way up
Frontier - above the R and O, again half way up.

Regards

Gary

[Edited 2004-04-29 14:26:56]

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3432 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

OK, but could you please perhaps mark this fault on one of my shots? I would be happy to fix it for you but I must first see that  Big grin

Daniel

User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5524 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1444 times:
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HEAD SCREENER

Danny

Delta shot.......locate the second pole in the soil, half way up the blue sky.

You will probably find that all your shots will have this spot, blue sky will show it up more.

Regards

Gary

User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5524 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1437 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

Danny

I am at work and cannot do........you really need to locate this yourself to see where it appears in all your images.

Regards

Gary

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3432 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

Got it. I wonder how many viewers would spot it Big grin OK, now next question - how do I clean my sensor?

User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5524 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1423 times:
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Danny

The viewers don't need to know..........the screeners are trained to notice.......as I said, for your benefit.

For cleaning the sensor, I use my Dyson with the attachments..open the shutter, stick the nozzle in and hey presto, the dust is gone  Wink/being sarcastic
Seriously, search the forum here and there are a few threads on sensor cleaning.

To be honest, if I were you, I would not clean and just use the clone tool. Would only take one second in Photoshop to fix.

Regards

Gary

User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1466 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

HOLY COW! u guys have eyes like a eagle ......

unbelievable  Wow!

robin


ABC
User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 367 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Antoher good way to find them is to blow the pic up to 300% or so and then your spot even the smallest.

Cheers

Paul > Must find my Dyson out to clean mine!

User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

Danny-
Here's a trick I use. Invert the image.

Image > Adjustments > Invert (Or Ctrl + "I" on a PC, I think...)

The human eye has trouble seeing subtle changes in midvalues. Actually, the eye sees it, but the brain ignores it. (Unless you have one of those abby-normal screener brains  Big grin )

Here's your DL shot with dust circled:


Open image in new window for full size.

Fair warning though. This trick also reveals sloppy retouching and cloning.

Hope this helps.

william

[Edited 2004-04-29 17:32:40]

User currently offlineScooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 823 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

 Insane

I usually agree with the screeners, but this is a little over the top, IMHO. I'm with Danny on this one...I looked closely at both and I still can't see the dirty spots.



User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

Danny, here you are :



I have to say hats off to Gary for seeing it. For me it was completely invisible before he pointed the location, and very faint afterwards.

You'll find the same spot at the same location on the other shot.

707

[edit] off course by the time I post, other peolpe have post the same. Oh well...

[Edited 2004-04-29 17:35:47]

User currently offlineScooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 823 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1348 times:

Ok, after some monitor adjustments, I can see it now. But still...it's hardly noticeable.

User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1294 times:

At first I was very surprised about that rejection, and was about to sound off in defense of my fellow photographer!!! But Gary's right, (the man DOES have eyes like an eagle!!!). It actually looks like a fingerprint on the sensor.

As a quick fix, I'd go into PhotoShop and use a smudge tool over it to blend it in - or even clone a bit of sky in. Do that, and keep doing that until you get your sensor clean. Easy easy easy.  Big thumbs up

Great shots Danny, and great eye Gary! It's nice to know that the screeners are actually trying to help us out here - they're not just picking on us!

DREW


I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5524 posts, RR: 71
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

Hi all

Guys, we are not using this as an easy rejection reason, but as I said, to make you aware of sensor dust.

Believe me, you might have some awsome shot only to realise that a small piece of dust will be grately magnified and could be positioned on an image that would be hard to clone.

Danny, great shots so get them cloned and uploaded again!

Cheers

Gary

User currently offlinePepef From Finland, joined Oct 2002, 440 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1193 times:

I felt it my duty to come forward with this crucial piece of information on sensor dust ( and other defects)...


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Hannes Meyer



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bjorn van der Velpen



These just on the first page of the Most popular of the last 24/48hours.

PUnmuth@VIE wrote:

A bit of self screening wouldnt hurt eh?


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Peter Unmuth - VAP



-Peter Fagerström-

User currently offlineGerardo From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 3479 posts, RR: 40
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1181 times:

A very good eye, Peter Fagerström!!! And a little  Wink/being sarcastic for your sense of humour. Nahh, give 'em a few more  Wink/being sarcastic Wink/being sarcastic Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers
Gerardo


dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1109 times:

Is badpeople gone? I hope she signed a model release.

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1055 times:

Wow, I was thinking the same thing... (model release).

I doubt that spot is a finger print, compare it to the size of the sensor.....

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1052 times:

I ordered the sensor swipes and pec pads and that fluid.. I was really really nervous, its a breeze now.

25 Dehowie: G'day This will always be a problem here until some kind of standardization for screening come in. I personally don't mind having a photo rejected as
26 Cancidas: IMO there is nothing wrong with them. i didn't see the dirt everyone else is talkin about.
27 Post contains images Twr75: I have found a technique that I find makes it very easier to identify and remove dust spots from images taken with a digital SLR. This is using Photos
28 Dehowie: Another way is in PS7 to spot the blighters. Imge/Adustments/equalize. They now stand out nicely so you can go back and correct them. Have fun Dazz
29 Post contains links and images Danny: WE got it in View Large View MediumPhoto © Daniel Wojdylo Thanks for all the advise! Daniel
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