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User currently offlineEmbraer145 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 311 posts, RR: 12
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

Dear Airliners.net crew.

I fully agree with the upload Q as installed a couple of weeks ago. The first time I was a bit surpirsed about it but after reading all the comments and explanations of the screening crew I have totally no problems with it. Shortly after the installation of the Q i had to go out for my offshorework and a short holiday after that. So it took sometime before I searched the database again.

As you can probably understand I am fully surprised that there are still upload numbers possible of 68, 35 and 33 (see todays "Top Uploaders" column).
My question is as short as simple: How is this possible with a limit of 30!!!!!

I hope one of the screeners or site administrators can answer this. It look a litlle bit funny to me.
Otherwise there are some smart people who had find a way to bypass the Q  Wink/being sarcastic

regards
Aart


DAI - Dutch Aviation Images.
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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Guess!

You upload 30 good pics. They get accepted quickly. You upload more. This all within 24 hrs.

They will add up.

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineEmbraer145 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Don't think so because I have 17 in the Q now for more than two days. So it is not getting that quick.
Tried it before I went offshore the way you describe, but that didn't work because I had reached the limit of 30!!!!

I thought that was the reason to keep the huge number of pictures in the Q down.



DAI - Dutch Aviation Images.
User currently offlineJeffm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Aart,
This is not brain surgery... think about it. Your only allowed 30 photos in queue at a time. Let's say you upload 30, 15 get screened and accepted, leaving you 15 in the queue, you add 15 more bringing your total back to 30. 20 pass screening this time giving you a total of 35 passed, and 10 remaining, leaving you an available "balance to fill" of 20 images.

All you have to do is upload more when you get your first series of acceptances... and yes, despite what you say, it can be done in less then 24 hours.

Make sense?


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Not everyone is trying to bullshit you here, ok? Just for a change believe someone when a perfectly logical explanation is given.

Oh and thank god that it didnt work for you.



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineEmbraer145 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Thanks for the clear explanation JeffM.


Oh and Wietse.

I think my pictures are not that bad. How can I otherwise have 150+ after only two or three months. Don't try to act to smart Wietse. As you have written already a couple weeks ago. Do not play hard against the man.....Keep it general. As you suggested then.

I can take "Oh and thank god that it didnt work for you" personally but I won't.
I am happy with my hobby. And if you cannot stand this kind of topics. Do not respond to them anymore.

I hope you will also start using your mind and do not burn down everybody who has some remarks so now and then. I always thought this was an open discussionforum. Maybe I am wrong. Correct me at a normal way if it's possible.



DAI - Dutch Aviation Images.
User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

aloha,

explanation for this "phenomen" are given above, and they are right  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Aart, take it a bit more easy, a lot people can upload 150+ pics in 2 months, its actually not about who gets the most on ...... , I am trying to push up my views per pic ... , also I think Wietse was not bitchy to you at all .... , and forget about the "bypass" ....

anyway, SA 346 is coming in 7 hrs .... , YIPIE!!!!!

cheerio robin



ABC
User currently offlineEmbraer145 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

Nada problema with me Rotate.

The only point when I started the topic was wondering how and why. That's all. And the explanations are clear.
And yes I know that it is easy to get a lot of pictures in the database. Only the sentence "Thank god...." was annoying me a little bit. But I am easy going and step over it.

No hard feelings to nobody at all.

Finish the topic now. Everything is clear

Thxs
Aart



DAI - Dutch Aviation Images.
User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

Aart,

Your pics are good but dont burn Wietse for what he said! In a way he is right, i mean i looked at your pics and out of 9, 8 were SAS md-80's, 4 of each in identical positions! If thats wat you like to do then that is fine, i have no problem with it, but i dont think you should be having ago at someone who is producing some of the most inovative aviation pics on this site!

This site is about people with a common interest interacting and just having fun with a topic we all love! Lets keep it friendly guys!!!

Chris




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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

Aart.

I did not say your pics are bad. They are of good quality. I mean that.

It is just my personal thing against people that want to upload in big big numbers. (there are a few exceptions, they know who they are)

Ask yourself this: What are you trying to achieve here? Do you want your pictures to be loved and viewed a lot? Or just put loads of pics on here that people hardly look at because they are practically the same?

If you want to have people like your shots, be more selective! Upload good angles, special planes, go to the runway when the light is good. (meaning that you do NOT shoot Kenya at 06)

If you do not care about what I just said above, then I am sorry for my comments.

Cheers,
Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineHeliporter From Switzerland, joined Jul 2003, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1825 times:

Hello photographers,

the given answer to Aart is only "half the reason" for this "phenomen" in the Upload Q or the number of added photos.

The other important and most significant key factor in the upload Q are all the photos left for Johan for a final decision. I guess you are not aware of the fact, that all the photographers of these photos (current 55 - since many weeks that high!) keep there position in the upload Q until Johan has decided about these photos - they have an "Upload Freebie" - a service which should be VIP Class with US$ 5 per day!!! (and not free to block all other contributors to this site)

A small example:
The Q is at around 4000+ photos. You upload your batch and you are in the region 500+ photographers with 4000+ photos in front of you - but - within the photographers infront of you are also the above "Upload Freebies". Their upload queue looks like eg. 20 photographer and 30 pics infront of you - ALL THE TIME. So every upload batch they made will be screened within a few hours - like this you can upload up to 1-2 batches with 30 photos each every day !!!! Believe me, this is true and all happens always infront of a normal photographer fighting against his position in the Q. I have seen for example photographers in the last week with an upload almost every day (with normal subjects, nothing new!). Not all, these "Upload Freebies" can also monitor their time of upload because they are in the very front of the queue. (it's a know fact that photos uploaded in the morning of the first day, get many more views - for those concerned about this)

This upload Q is very unfair and nobody takes care about it !!!

Robin, the SA346 was great. I think many photographers had taken it - how great would it be, when we have a FIFO queue and all uploaded picture in the same evening would be published with the same conditions for ALL photographers. Today we first see those from the "Upload Freebies" and other lucky right now in the front of the queue - some days later the middle position photographers and maybe in a week time those having no other photos already in the Q.

IMHO a.net is like this NO platform to share pictures among photographers and I understand meanwhile why many photographers uploading photos on different sites. I would really enjoy when the crew can explain, why they don't want to change this nasty weak point in the upload queue.

I hope for all photographers that we see soon a fair clear handling of our uploaded photos.

Markus



Markus Herzig - Swiss Helicopters, Pilatus Porter and Aviation Photography
User currently offlineFireguy274 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

I am all for the FIFO!

User currently offlineDehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 1057 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Agree
FIFO is the way to go with a total limit of 30 in the Q at any one time period.



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User currently offlineHeliporter From Switzerland, joined Jul 2003, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

Johan and Crew - thanks a lot for the final processing of the 50+ photos in the Q "left for Johan for a final decision" - this is very much appreciated!
With a current Q of 6000+ this helps a lot for a faster Q turn around

Markus



Markus Herzig - Swiss Helicopters, Pilatus Porter and Aviation Photography
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