Chrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4730 times:
That's just the NYT's style. Just the same if an AP or Getty photo is used, they just credit the service, not the individual photographer. i.e. Getty Images or The Associated Press, not xxx / Getty Images or xxx / Associated Press.
If you get a photo used by the NYT, you won't have your name unless you string for them, or if you are a staffer.
Airliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4555 times:
Guys, thanks for the heads up here! I was NEVER contacted requesting permision to post this picture at NY-Times. What can I do about this? If you think your reply will be too personal please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Jofa From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 320 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4528 times:
Document the theft first of all. Then do alot of research before you contact them. If this was in Sweden i should have tried to get compensation for theft of image and usage of image (two diffrent things). There are organisations who deal with photographers and photos, they should be able to guide you when it comes to resonable price (and legal advice). If you play your cards right you might get enough money for a new lens or something.
2.) Contact Johan and find out if the NY Times contacted Airliners.net in any way, shape or form. Even if it was a notification e-mail sent to "email@example.com."
3.) Contact the editors at the NY Times at:
I find it curious that a publication as large at the NY Times would print this image without photographer consent. There can be a few reasons why they did. I think it would be prudent to find out all angles before pursuing any "legal" action. It may be a misunderstanding.
One thing is clear, however, the copyright violation warnings on this web site did NOT work in this instance.
One clear winner, however, is Johan. Who got his url in the NY Times. Shame they did not, at least, get your name on there as well.
ExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4424 times:
From Airliners.net's "Use Photos" page:
You may not use these photos on any web page, commercial or non-commercial, for profit or non-profit, without written permission from the photographer. You may however link to the photos in the manner described below.
Have you found a photo in our database that you would like to use?
To receive permission to use a photo from Airliners.net in any other way than the one described above, you have to contact the photographer (the copyright holder) of the photo. We assure you, it is a very simple process and all of our photographers are very willing to help and most will reply to your inquiries within a day. You can contact our photographers by using the e-mail form linked to beside each photo on Airliners.net.
The digital photos on this site are licensed to Airliners.net. They are equipped with a footer with copyright and license information and also carry an invisible watermark. If you receive permission from the photographer to use a particular photo, you may use a copy from Airliners.net as long as you inform us of the usage as to avoid misunderstandings (we do not appreciate and react strongly when finding our photos on other sites that use them without permission). We do however advice that you get a new copy of the photo directly from the photographer that does not carry our license and watermark.
Finally, we ask that you mention Airliners.net where and when you use photos originally found on our site, whatever agreement you have with the photographer. It doesn't need to be big, just a small mention in whatever way you choose. As you might have realized by now, we do not make any money from selling photos, everything goes directly to the individual photographer. Our only form of "income" is your help in spreading the word about our website. Please respect that.
Would you like to link to our photos from your web page?
If you have a web page (personal or company) and would like to link to certain photos on Airliners.net, you do not have to ask for permission as long as you use the code as described below.
I think these passages are confusing and adding to the problem. It conveys that in some circumstances it is okay to use Airliners.net images as long as the A.net url is mentioned. I think it is misleading and can cause problems as we've seen with Adel's images.
I strongly request a re-writing. I think encouraging entities to NOT contact the photographer is out of order and compounds the problem. I feel it should be OBLIGATORY to contact the photographer for any sort of usage.
Johan's comments on this would be appreciated as well.