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A Day In The Life Of A JFK Photographer ...  
User currently offlineAagold From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 552 posts, RR: 45
Posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5179 times:
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This past weekend we were blessed, or so we thought, with a special visitor ... the Air Atlanta Olympic Torch Relay 747. We could hardly wait the week before she arrived, but we kept busy trying to find out an arrival time. It was almost impossible. One newspaper reported that the torch relay would begin at 10:30 a.m., another at 11:00 a.m. My friend, Alex the "Mad Russian" Kroychik from DEN, had contacted us the day before and was flying in Friday afternoon hoping to get the flight when it arrived Sat. morning. Alan Ling from Vancouver was also in town for the event. We sent e-mails to the locals and a group was formed to meet Sat. morning at whatever time she would arrive. Alex and I stayed up to 1:00 a.m. checking Flytecomm for the times, but they weren't posted until after I called it a night. Having seen the times for its arrival in ATL and knowing when the relay would start I figured the latest she'd arrive would be 8:00 a.m. I set the alarm clock for 4:15 a.m. and went to bed to get a couple hours sleep.

When the alarm clock forced me out of bed at that unGodly hour I immediately checked Flytecomm and she was listed. The #2 aircraft was due at 7:05 and the #1 a few minutes past 8:00. My next stop was to yell downstairs for Alex to get up and then to the phone to call Mike Primamore and fill him in on the details. Then a quick call to Matt Celmer to tell him to get his butt to Planeview Park by 6 so we could pick him up on the way. Then a quick call to JFK ATIS to see what the conditions were like. They were terrible, but we were hoping they'd improve by the time she arrived. The conditions made little difference since this was something special and we wanted to be there anyhow, just like the last Air France Concorde flight in the rain and the last British Airways Concorde flight at sunrise. By 5:30 we were on the road to JFK.

Where I live, about 10 miles fromt he George Washington Bridge (GWB), the Sun was rising and there was light. Yes, it was hazy, but acceptable. When we crossed the GWB we got our first real inkling of what the weather truly was. Normally we can see the city skyline in the distance, but not this morning. We couldn't even see the buildings on the other side of the river. The 4s were active so we needed to head over to Bayswater Park for the shots, of course it's the spot that's the furthest away, but everything worked liked clockwork. We arrived at Planeview Park, picked Matt up and continued our drive.

We arrived and made the five minute walk out to the viewing area just in the nick of time. There was Alex, Anne, Matt, Mike P. and myself, the early birds, and surprisingly there wasn't a single fisherman there. Strange. We had time for one aircraft to arrive and let us test our exposure to see how bad things really were. I'll let the pictures do the most of the talking for what happened the rest of the day ...

No sooner had we taken the test expossure we heard the #2 flight cleared to land. As you can see by the above she's emerging from a thick fog bank about 200 to 300 feet above. But we weren't too discouraged. We hoped things would improve over the next hour before the #1 aircraft arrived, and they did ...

Hell, for a minute there we actually saw the Sun and it got significantly brighter. Just before 8 a.m. we were joined first by Tom Turner and then by Mike McLaughlin and Alan Ling. We had a few laughs and showed them the pics of the #2 aircraft, and for the next half hour we watched in horror as the Sun disappeared and the celing fell. Finally it was time. We heard the tower clear the #1 aircraft for a 4R arrival and we waited. As we had done for the last few aircraft we watched with eagle eyes and saw nothing at all as she passed us. We could only hear the whine of her engines and we followed the sound as it made its way toward the runway. Dissappointed we hadn't seen a thing ...

She broke out of the fog at about 100 feet and we managed to snap a few shots for our personal collections.

With the conditions being so bad we decided that breakfast at the local IHOP was in order so we left Bayswater hoping things would improve. We enjoyed a nice breakfast and things did improve over the next 2 hours. We could actually see the planes departing before they went into the overcast above 500 feet. We had hope. Anne, Alex and myself decided to run back to Bayswater to see if things there had improved while the others elected to go and get a ground shot of the #1 aircraft. Arriving at Bayswater we noticed no improvement at all. You still couldn't see the planes right in front of you. That fog was just hugging the water.

Within minutes of our arrival at Bayswater JFK did it's usual ... they changed runways to the 22s so we jumped in the car and headed back over to the mounds for 22L arrival shots. It was early though and the light was bad ...

Soon after we got a "where are you" phone call from the rest of the group and they joined us at the mounds. But, arriving and seeing the bad light, Mike M. suggested we follow him to another spot for 22L arrivals. We did and there is no question the light was much better as witnessed by this shot.

Can you believe we went from the earlier conditions to this is just a few hours? This spot is much better for morning/early afternoon shots of 22L arrivals, but I was leary as the PAPD likes to visit you at this spot. And it's impossible to keep a low profile so I use it very rarely. We were expecting a visit at anytime but, fortunately, JFK did it to us again ... they switched runways to the 31s and we were soon feeling the relief of leaving this spot for the more comfortable surroundings of the COSTCO parking lot where we continuted to enjoy the nice weather and sky ...

Calling it a day we decided to ride by and get a shot of the #1 aircraft parked, and wouldn't you know it ...

It was parked to close to the fence to get a good clear shot. I guess it just wasn't meant to be for us that day ...

I did manage this shot that I like and thought ... "Pass the flame, unite the world." Wouldn't it be nice if we could  Smile

With Alex safely on his UA 762 flight to SFO and Matt dropped off at the US Airways Terminal at LGA Anne and I headed home for a quick dinner and some sleep. We were in bed by 9:30 with the alarm set for 4:15 a.m. again as we were thinking of going and getting the departure of the Torch flights. I awoke and checked Flytecomm to find it confusing. Two #1 flights listed minutes apart with the first leaving at 5:54 a.m. I chased Anne out of bed and within minutes we were headed to JFK checking the ATIS along the way. Conditions had taken an about face and the day was absolutely perfect. And, best yet, they were using the 31s so there was hope that we'd get that nice banking shot. We arrived at Howard Beach just before 6 and waited for the departure. This time we knew what was happening as we could see the two aircraft sitting by the old TWA hangars across the bay. A few minutes after 6 the #2 aircraft began to move and we were excited. Now we just needed that long low climb with a nice bank. The Sun was still not in a great position and I knew it wouldn't hit the aircraft until she was well into the turn, but who really cared as this was the #2 aircraft and not the #1 aircraft ...

She tookoff beautifully and continued her runway heading for quite sometime before beginning her procedural turn over Howard Beach. Just like we wanted and needed. Unfortunately she didn't give us that bank we like so much and the Sun was still not hitting the aircraft even when she was well into the turn.

The above shot gives you some idea as to how far she was before the Sun hit her. It's full frame at an equivalent 600mm. Now the wait for the #1 aircraft began. We weren't sure exactly when she would depart but felt it would probably be an hour later. We waited patiently taking some shots as the Sun improved over the next hour ...

Watching this untitled El Al cargo 74 depart we had hopes for a nice shot of the #1 aircraft. As expected she began to taxi and Anne and I waited patiently for her to reach the end of 31L and depart. Just after she started moving we were joined by Conrad. The only other photographer that we saw. We heard her cleared for takeoff and saw her tail begin to move down the runway and jumped out of the car to get our pics. We knew immediately it was bad news. She was off in a heartbeat and, when they get off that early it means only one thing, she was going to pass right over our heads.

Naturally we were disappointed, but the important thing is that we were there to hear and see it. Not sure if that will ever happen again so we couldn't miss it and it gave us an opportunity to spend some time with some good friends. So, all things considered ... we enjoyed our outings.

Given the beautiufl day Anne and I decided to stay and shoot a few arrivals on 31R before heading home and crashing from the two early mornings. We ended the day with this shot ...


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User currently offlineFutterman From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1301 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5129 times:

Reminds me of a certain morning in October...  Smile

I was looking forward to meeting The Mad Russian, but other things prevailed and I was locked up in my apartment the whole day. Oh, the Olympic 74' would've been nice, too!

As for the weather, be comforted by the fact that no one else nailed it.  Big grin

I don't suppose you cought Qantas 107 in from LAX at around a quarter past five on Sunday. I saw it for the first time from all the way out on the Island as she lined up for one of the 22s.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Great stuff, Art. Looking forward to at least trying to make the next event! MC sent me all of his shots to edit; you had some nice traffic on Saturday. NW Cargo, EK A345, VS A346, and the Torch Relay.


What the FUTT?
User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5124 times:


Haven't we all been there??????
I know your feelings, but oh well this is history, no reason to cry over spilled milk.

Nice report though.......


p.s. at least you were there and were able to hang out with some nice folks

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5093 times:


This is not have any problems with thsoe photos. This is one of good day in JFK and will make more photos into the database soon. Did you think about anything else about their own camera?


User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5056 times:

Art, Thanks for the "Great Report". Sorry you did not have better luck but it sounds like everybody had a "Great Time". I enjoyed the photo's anyway !

Ron Peel

User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

it was a fun time, especially watching tom turner struggling with the sand. we didn't get hassled even once either. just wish the wx was better!!

"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
User currently offlineN178UA From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1760 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5004 times:
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Hey Art

In March when I was with you, they're using 22s all mornings, all afternoons, all evenings....I thought things couldn't be worst than that!  Big grin

Some nice blue sky you got there!!!!!


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

Too bad the *other mad russian* couldn't be there...

I started working so no travelling for me for now, but I'll make sure to visit NYC and all of its airports in the near future. (hopefully)

Great report.

I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineBenyhone From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 206 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4954 times:

Great story - albeit a heartbreaker! The slim outline of the 747 in the fog really tells the story - I'm glad you shot that one.


Cactus Wings Photography, Phoenix
User currently offlineCrank From Canada, joined May 2001, 1564 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4940 times:

Hi Art,

Your story reminds me of the day we had here in Montreal trying to nail a few shots of these gorgeous 747s as they arrived from JFK, except that we didn't have such bad weather.

Great report! Cheers.

User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3952 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

Unfortunately, I wasn't there for the second shot, as I was soundly asleep in my bed here in DEN, ready for a lazy day of just screwing around, since it's peak travel time, and I had a few close calls with cancellations. I saw that A-340-500 land, but couldn't get it, since I was about to depart on my first 767-200 ride, and boy, what a ride it was! Five course meal, dessert, two movies, Channel 9, and a First Class window seat (1A). Best of all, it was free. I would like to thank everyone who came out to meet me, we had a great time, and I hope to see you all again in the near future.

Thank you all very much,


Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineFlyingColors From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 73 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4715 times:

Heck with this...........
I'm going back to drinking.
Ho wait, I haven't stopped?!
Now what????

Mike  Smile

Moon chaser!
User currently offlineQantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5954 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4630 times:

sounds like a gerat day out with the lads, fond memories of IHOP just near us in Queens.

has a very farmiliar ring to it that story just at an airport thousands of miles away! then we had that Evergreen 747 at JFK which went out so light the plane was overhead when she banked..  Sad


a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

Glad to see you got some shots. I saw it 2 months before it left gatwick in the old BA hangar being painted  Smile

Should have gotten a picture but then, shuda woulda coulda...

:D Nice story mate  Smile

Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
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