NEXtime From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 81 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1520 times:
I'm looking to buy a new Digital SLR. The Canon EOS300D (Digital Rebel) and the Nikon D70 are the two in the frame. Any feedback on either of these two would be appreciated. Also, any comments or thoughts with regard to uploading photos using either of the above.
Thanks in anticipation....
2912n From United States, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1498 times:
Hahahahahahah....yep, go ahead and throw the match to the C vs N wars.
Both are excellent cameras. If you have no lenses from either brand and will be building a new system I suggest you go to a good camera shop and play with each camera. See how they feel in YOUR hands. If you can borrow or rent them go out and do a day of shooting and compare them for yourself.
Read through the reviews here and over at places like DPReview.com or stevesdigicam.com. Take a look at what the photo magazines are saying about them. But I think most importantly, see how you like shooting one versus the other.
Personally I choose Canon. I like the way the functions work and the lens lineup. But I had Canon SLR's and lenses for Canon so it was a simple choice to stay with D60 and then 10D. (and if I could afford the divorce, a 1D Mk II).
Kereru From New Zealand, joined Jun 2003, 866 posts, RR: 54 Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1474 times:
Either camera is good and as mentioned it is really up to your own personal preference. Nikon D70 was my choice and you can check the results of either and or both cameras by typing the name in the keyword field on Airliners.net and check the photos that come up.
More important is your post processing work flow. No matter how good the camera is the work flow before uploading to A.net if not done well will still get you rejections. There are plenty of threads here explaining work flow and the best way to process images to A.net standard and I suggest you read some of those for additional info before making a final decision.
Nudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1437 posts, RR: 27 Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1460 times:
I have considered buying the 300D / Rebel. But when I had it in my hands, I thought it was a good camera in a real cheap appearance.
Back then, the D70 was still a romour and I also owned Nikon lenses already, but I wanted the best product and compared.
I would say, the outward appearance of Nikon is higher in the lower budget cameras, not speaking about the high level models.
Well, basically, I would say, the D70 feels like a more expensive camera, more than the Rebel does.
Picture quality? Well... just like A <> B...
TravelRalf From Germany, joined Jun 2004, 94 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1380 times:
The D70 is simply great and it feels like a pro-camera. But don't forget to choose a decent lens which I personally think is more important than the body.
I have a D70 since I'm shooting with Nikon cameras since many years and I do own some prime lenses which I'm continuing to use.
It is also depends a little bit on your personal taste regarding the color balance between the two cameras (I prefer the "Nikon" colors). The review at www.dpreview.com helps a lot if you want to compare them.
And besides all that - the 300D is a little bit older than the D70. Nikon had to react to the 300D and you know how fast the digital world changes and improves - just take a look at your computer
JAT74L From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined May 2004, 618 posts, RR: 25 Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1366 times:
I bought the 300D simply to go with the Canon lenses I already had. I am thankful therefore that it is a good camera and the results I am now getting with more and more practice on Photoshop are VERY pleasing. I find the controls and menu system easy to use but find the quality of the plastics used in the body construction to be a little under par and find them easily scratched so care of the camera is essential.
But, the crux of the matter is in the results. I am new to aviation photography and to the use of post processing programs but have a look at these shots... (remember I am no expert). I am delighted with them and the 300D.
JayDavis From United States, joined Jan 2001, 1989 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1273 times:
I have had Canon bodies since 1986 or so. Started with the EOS 650, then got two EOS 630's. The reason I choose Canon over Nikon was at the time, I felt that Canon focused a little bit quicker than the Nikon did.
Since then, I've had a EOS 1VHS and now I just bought a EOS 1D Mark II. I love it !! I almost am tempted to just sell my EOS 1VHS in order to get more flash cards.........I have two 1 gigs right now.
But Colin Wok convinced me in a private e-mail to keep my 1VHS as a film camera will always be used eventually. Kinda like how black and white photography has seen a resurgence versus color photography. I hate to lose what I put into the 1VHS as it was about $2300.00 brand new.
I like Canon products and will continue to only buy Canon lenses. Some of my friends have after market lenses for their Nikon cameras and get good results. I tried one time with an after-market lense and was not happy at all.
I will never buy anything other than a Canon lense.
Bronko From United States, joined Jul 2001, 801 posts, RR: 19 Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
Mdwalkman: How do you figure? Up until your post, posters are providing useful and unbiased information.
NEXTime: My advice would be to look at your total budget, and figure out what lens or lenses you wish to buy first, then see what is left for the camera as the D70 is more expensive. If you are buying this for aviation photography, you will need a lens with some reach. I hope that makes sense.
I went for the 300D, so I could put more money on the glass, which I have not regretted. The camera will only be as good as the glass you put in front of it, and the skills behind it.
Does anyone know how Nikon lens prices compare to Canon? Are they generally considered more or less for an equivalent lens?
Clickhappy From United States, joined Sep 2001, 8842 posts, RR: 80 Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1244 times:
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I went for the 300D, so I could put more money on the glass
The D70 wasn't out when you bought your rig, silly Rabbit
Clickhappy From United States, joined Sep 2001, 8842 posts, RR: 80 Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1228 times:
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I think Nikon glass costs more, and I think you get more overall value for your money with Canon (talking lenses here). Canon has a huge lead on Nikon when it comes to IS (VR in Nikon nomenclature) systems.
Bronko From United States, joined Jul 2001, 801 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1206 times:
Royal: When I said I went for the 300D, I was debating between that and the 10D. I should have clarified. Maybe someday I will get the 10D or its successor, and have the 300D as a second body or sell it.
Lindy: Why do you think the OP should go for a D70? I am not disagreeing necessarily, just curious as to why.
Dehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 782 posts, RR: 52 Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1168 times:
At the end of the day GLASS is THE BIG investment not the camera.
Your 300D or D70 will be around for a few years but your lenses should last you a lot lot longer than a digital SLR body.
My call would be to go with a cheaper body which gets the job done and get the best glass you can period.
Money saved buying cheap lenses will cost you good photo's time and time again.
There is NO substitute for top quality lenses and at the end of the day its the lens not the camera which makes the photo.
I'd go Canon again as the value/dollar for the L glass can't be beaten.
Since setting up my digital rig i have spent three times the price of my body on lenses.
The lenses are here for a long time but i'd imagine the body will be bypassed within another 24 months.
Think long term.
Darren
EOS 1DsMKIII,EOS1DMK3,EOS 7D,16-35LII,14/2.8LII,24-70L,70-200IS,100-400L,14 2.8L,180L,300/2.8IS,500L,600L,800L
NEXtime From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 81 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1105 times:
Thanks everyone for the feedback with some very useful info.
I've read with interest the reviews and looked at the brochures. It's off to
the stores the weekend to see the real thing. I think its gonna be the D70 from review information, we shall see!
Cheers
MNeo From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2004, 748 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1077 times:
i will have to agree with the people on the board. i got my 300D for $800 with the $200 saved from the nikon D70 i will now eher buy the 70-200L f4 or sigma 70-200 f2.4 . as that of the body looking cheap it does to the people who dont no amything about cameras. but after you put a "white lens" on it people do look at you diffrently.
since is a matter of $200 and a only a small diffrence between the two i whould go with the cannon. then get your self a nice pair of lenses.
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