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User currently offlineCathay112 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Moved conveniently to where photographers wouldn't see it........

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/23902/

Rather than sweep this under the carpet let's address the issue at hand. I thought airliners.net was better than this?????

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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

Nothing new. The inconsistency at which the rules and "standards" are applied was one of the main reason I quit uploading (the ridiculous "standards" themselves being another reason which are stricter than anything even the most picky paying customer would set).


I wish I were flying
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3265 times:

I somehow expected you to immediately jump on this topic Jeroen. I kinda wish you were flying as well. It would save us from your negativity.

Oh and EDIT: This is a fine excuse for you isnt it? Face it, you just couldnt get your pics up to the required standard. Then you claim inconsistency and quit uploading to save your face. Great going.

[Edited 2004-07-11 13:35:05]


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3309 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

Maybe I misunderstand the queue here snice I normally only upload on "that other site", but isn't it allowed to upload 40 (or something) photos in a batch. maybe he had 30 photos already uploaded and then added the three photos that seem to have been uploaded early? That would place his photos early in the queue, no?


Attamottamotta!
User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

Peter...
I guess you haven't been here for a while...  Big grin Things have changed. Now we have a combination of the old queue system and FIFO. It is explained somewhere in this forum (do a seach for older topics).
Eduard


User currently offlineDehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 1056 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3198 times:

I find it interesting that a topic which is of major interest to the site photographers was moved to the site section to avoid perusal by the very people who need to see it.
Well worth taking a look at but raises a few issues with why photo's are being screened out of upload date sequence.
Darren

[Edited 2004-07-11 15:19:05]


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User currently offlineVir380 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2002, 621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3147 times:

Im guessing it was moved because its site related ...  Smile

just a hunch !

yet again the negativity crowd arrive to jump at every opportunity to rip into the site ... Dear oh dear .... Come on

regards



User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

Love the Lauda Air shot!

It could be just me, but when I look at the recent uploads, I never even look at the upload date.... makes no difference to me. Screeners don't get many perks.


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 47
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

Let's discuss it like grown ups would do. No hard feeling afterwards.
Bottom line! Some issues just have to be brought up.

Wietse, please do me a favor, just accept what Jwenting has to say. Even he is entitled to an opinion. Maybe there is some truth behind his statement.

Like it or not...a lot of photographers have a big ego. If someone gets a priority treatment of any kind, people tend to get jealous. It will always stay that way......

A.net is great but IMO has one great disadvantage and you can see it pop up every now and then in these discussions:

"Screeners being active contributing photographers to this site."

If these screeners were not uploading to this site, it would be a whole different story. No one could accuse the screeners of giving out or getting priority treatment.

Vasco Garcia

p.s. will check back in a few hours and see how long it will stay open......





User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

Regarding moving the topic to Site Related --

Screener Answer Time/Bad Double - Do we have to go through this again?/Top of Yesterday? Whats Wrong?/Anyone having upload problem?/Uploading problem were *not* transferred to Site Related.

Further - when Admin wishes to address photographers, it is in this forum -
New Photo Stats online
New Upload Photo queue
New on Airliners.net
Appeal Page Updated

These topics appear in the Photography section (for good reason).


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

Vasco, I will do you that favor if you do me one: Just search for recent posts by Jwenting. It's a good bet that 9 out of 10 of his recent replies show up in posts where something negative is the subject. Airlines going belly up etc. 90% of the time when he shows up in the Aviation Photography forum is when the screeners and/or the system is under attack. That just irritates me.


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

Wietse,

sure thing. Even if 9 out of 10 post in the last couple of months were about negativity, there might be a reason for it. Maybe we should get in depth look why he is bringing up some much negativ energy. Frustration? Double Standards?

Personally I would not accuse someone of these points if I don't have any hard facts. So Jwenting, would you care to show us some examples?

Vasco



User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 810 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Why are you so concerned if someone has a tendency to the negative? I agree it might be annoying, but why add to it by complaining or pointing it out?

At the minimum he/she is entitled to their opinion, so who cares?



Jet City Aviation Photography
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

ok now I am the one that did it...

negativity sucks. especially when unfounded



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1633 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

Weiste, wasn't it you, just the other day, saying that planes are boring...! Big grin
Spencer.



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2872 times:

Weiste, wasn't it you, just the other day, saying that planes are boring...!
Spencer.


HAHA. I was about to say the same thing... I ll take it a bit further tho...

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/138370/


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

If you consider that being negative, you really missed the point..

ah well, some people are oblivious to a deeper meaning

[Edited 2004-07-11 21:45:13]


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineAviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2857 times:

I don't like to see a topic goes personal but i this case i feel the need to support Wietse.
We have a new Dutch word..... "Jwentinging" not for no reason.
Doesn't matter what you are talking about, it's always wrong and or bad.

Planes are not boring, some people are because you know there answer even before the topic is started.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Now back to the topic.
I have no problem with the new screening rules what so ever.
When i think i have something hot i send an email and leave the decision up to them and in all other cases(which is the majority) i 'll sit and wait.




The truth lives in one’s mind, it doesn’t really exist
User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1633 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

Not oblivious Wieste, (BTW, can't you take a joke?!), just slightly vexxed as to why one minute you're saying shooting aircraft is boring, (which in essence you did), which is in all honesty a slight negation on what this site is based on, then you slate this other guy for being negative too. Hey, I don't know either of you, but everyone has the right to say what they want, yeah? Perhaps if I take time to read some of the other bloke's input I'll probably have the same attitude as you. (And please, in reading this, take no offence as I haven't meant anything disrespectful here.......)
Spencer.

[Edited 2004-07-11 22:44:52]


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User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 41
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

You know, we're getting a little off-topic here, but I can kinda see where Wietse is coming from. I see that he's frustrated about AMS, and it's understandable - when you see the same stuff (for the most part) day in and day out, you tend to get bored, no matter how great the stuff is. I know it personally. When I started working for United in DEN, I quickly got bored off of plain approach shots. So I shot on the ramp. Now I want to get to the runway and shoot some close action. It's all a part of growing as a photographer.

Alex.



Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineUnited4everDEN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

In other words, you get spoiled and nothing is good enough for you  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1633 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

Or you can't be bothered to venture out elsewhere........ Smile
Spencer.



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