LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4956 times:
I hope this hasn't been discussed already but I notice shots from the FAB airshow being added next day etc from a range of photographers so if uploading shots from FAB do we mail the screeners? If not how does the screening process work for FAB shots?
Manzoori From UK - England, joined Sep 2002, 1516 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4914 times:
No rules as far as I'm aware mate. I never left a single note to screeners. They simply joined the queue like the rest and I wasn't expecting to see them appear for about a week what with the queue being as long as it is. Lets face it... this is Airshow Silly season!
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Sulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4733 times:
Every single image I've seen from Farnborough this year has been, without exception, brilliant.
That being said, in the case of aircraft that are not particularly newsworthy, or not involved in an event of special interest (like the aerobatic jumbos) I'm a little surprised to have seen them appear so rapidly.
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Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4686 times:
As has already been said, there's obvious benefit to all if airliners.net can get some initial coverage of major trade shows up on the site promptly. But please note, I'm talking major aviation trade shows which are likely to generate news in their own right, and I'm NOT talking about tin-pot little air shows - the number of shows that fall into this major trade shows category annually can be counted on the fingers of one hand, but will typically be limited to the likes of Farnborough, Berlin, Paris.
However, once we've established good broad initial coverage of any trade show, much like with any other new or newsworthy subjects submitted to this site late comers have to wait their turn. For example, we may well quickly process an initial bunch of Farnborough shots that include relatively common subjects like a South African 747-400 so that we can provide good all-round coverage of the show, but once we've got a few pictures of the South African 747-400 at Farnborough late-comers are going to have to wait just as they do with any other subject matter.
This may well benenfit those who go to an event like Farnborough on the early trade or press days, and may appear to be hard on those folks who go to an event later in the week or on the public days, but its always been the policy of a.net to fast-screen truely newsworthy items and once basic coverage is complete to let the rest be processed normally.
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4685 times:
Does it help sales at all, or is the event too heavily saturated with contract and media photographers to make much of a difference?
I think that you'll find that most of the photographers who upload here and also invest significant amounts of their time over several days at events like Farnborough have already established channels through which they will make money from their work - a.net, in such cases, is just an added bonus.
Ckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 813 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4679 times:
In my own case, as I got to Farnborough early (16th) I emailed the screeners to let them know there were shots in the queue from the show (I did not ask for preferential treatment).
Given that Farnborough gets a lot of media attention (probably more than it deserves) I can understand that people might come to A.net expecting to see shots from the show, and it is in A.net's interest to deliver. Further since it is a trade show, it is hard to distinguish between what is and isn't important - the superb display of the SA 747 might make good pics, but isn't really newsworthy, whereas shots of a new GA type might be.
Regarding sales - yes the event is media saturated, but shots from the "official" media are not always readily available to other companies/organisations. Also, some of the best shots are to be had outside "airshow hours" (eg. morning arrivals and evening departures) when the media aren't necessarily around. For example, on Wednesday after the show finished, Paul (Sukhoi) and I hung around and were treated to departure shots of almost the whole corporate park ... and we had the place pretty much to ourselves.
To date, Farnborough has been very kind to me for sales, mostly for corporate brochures and company reports - sometimes to manufacturers, but more often to the various component sub-contractors (who probably don't have ther own photographers in attendance).
Work4bmi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4641 times:
CkW & Skymonster...
Well, I think you're detailed replies have sorted that out. Thanks for letting us know, it makes sense when you put the way you guys have. Guess my Farnborough shots will have to wait, which is fine as I have already secured my sales and I think the already uploaded lot have been fantastic!
Andrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4486 times:
Interestingly, the "BADDOUBLE" doesn't seem to apply to Farnborough shots. I'm sure we'll see at least a few dozen more shots of F-WWCA, F-18 #917 or that darned Qatar Global Express in the coming week... EEeek. Don't get me wrong - they're all great shots, but sheesh! Just scroll through the shots and it almost looks animated!