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Canon 300D Vs Nikon D70  
User currently offlineKiwiNanday From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

I currently have a Nikon N4004s, but I want to upgrade to a digital camera, and I hear these two are the best available for the money. The catch is, because I already have D70 lenses (the lenses of the two Nikons are interchangeable), I wouldn't have to buy any lenses, and could purchase the body only. Which camera should I get? If you have any, please post images! I would like to compare the quality!

[Edited 2004-08-12 14:31:35]

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User currently offlineWoody001 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 529 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5457 times:

You have answered your own question, if you have lenses that will work on the Nikon then purchase one of those.
If you want to go the Canon route then you will have to budget in more funds to purchase lenses.

Alternatively think about buying a secondhand better spec body, maybe a Canon 10D and look out for used lenses?

Ian.



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User currently offlinePIA747SV747 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5430 times:

Well the 300D is plastic which means it could break easily!

User currently offlineAndersNilsson From Sweden, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5413 times:

Go with the Nikon D70 since you already have the lenses.
Check out http://www.dpreview.com for Nikon D70 reviews and forum about D70.

Anders


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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2029 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5404 times:

And the lenses have glass in them and that breaks easily too.

The 300D has a polycarbonate body. It won't withstand being chucked in the boot of you car or dropped from a great height, or perhaps being used to hammer nails into plywood.

However, if you treat your camera as you would any piece of complex, fragile equipment, you'll be absolutely fine.

If you must have something that could possibly survive being hit by a depleted uranium armour-piercing round, or something that could be used as an impromptu - yet small - bomb shelter, go for the 10D.

In your case I'd go Nikon, as you probably have some nice lenses you could use with it.


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User currently offlineInterpaul From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 409 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

If you must have something that could possibly survive being hit by a depleted uranium armour-piercing round, or something that could be used as an impromptu - yet small - bomb shelter, go for the 10D.

Thank You.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5381 times:

"However, if you treat your camera as you would any piece of complex, fragile equipment, you'll be absolutely fine."

Your camera is a tool. You should not have to 'baby it' in hopes that it will work for you. And on the other hand, don't wear the ball and chain of a few Nikon lenses when you can cut that chain easily. I'm sure you could dump those lenses.


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5380 times:

Investigate in the strengths and weaknesses of the lenses Canon and Nikon offer, they should be the decisive factor in choosing which camera.

The 2 cameras are roughly the same, the lenses available for them are not. I personally think that Canon has a better lens offering, but you have to decide for yourself..

Wietse


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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5363 times:

You could go with the D70, but then again if you use the lense you've been using on your old Nikons, they'll work with the D70, but you won't get optimum quality as if you were to have a lense built for a digital SLR. Also, sometimes you can lose the AF.

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5331 times:

There are not many lenses built specifically for digital SLR's at the moment. The majority of lenses people use on their digtial SLR's were built before we even had digital cameras, and they work very, very well indeed.

What lens are you talking about John? I'm curious about your statement on "optimum quality" as well. Fill us in.

Thanks,

Jeff

User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5323 times:

The only DX-lenses available are wideangle anyway, no telezooms which is most common in aviation photography.

If you shoot Nikon now you should stay black ;o) The D70 is a better camera than the 300D. Mine is up to 7000 exposures already, works like a charm.


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5304 times:

You might even consider going for the D100 but if you already use Nikon, stay with it. You can still upgrade your lenses later.
And you can always use your analog camera as a backup, either for empty batteries or if you want to have a different lens setup ready, many people do that.
Also keep in mind, when you go for a DSLR, you will want to buy good photo-editing software (if you don't have it yet), CF-cards, extra batteries, maybe an imagetank, battery-grip (totally worth it!).

You can also wait for a good bargain, like that:
With my Nikon I got a nice mail-in rebate of €250 plus a €100 accessories coupon...
Since then I took most of my pics (mostly landscape) with my DSLR, and am absolutely with that...


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9459 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5291 times:
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but you won't get optimum quality as if you were to have a lense built for a digital SLR

Rubbish. The only lenses built for DSLR's are half-frame models that wont work in a film body, there is nothing special about them, other than marketing hype. It has allowed a company like Nikon to produce a plastic lens, with much smaller optics and no app settings on the lens, yet they still charge the same price as a traditional lens, which is also a load of crap.

User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 805 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5280 times:

Maybe you could post which Nikon lenses you own? They could be very old and antiquated, giving unacceptable results and performance on a D70. If that were the case, then you could look again at Canon vs. Nikon.

My father is at the same point right now. Since his old Nikon lenses are just too slow, he is now looking at Canon as well as the D70.



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User currently offlineAfaero From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2004, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5271 times:

If I'm going to buy Nikon D70 which lens could you recommend within budget 600 - 800 usd. I need zoom at least 8?

User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5257 times:

Find a used 80-200 f2.8.

I see youre from HKG, from what Ive heard you need 400mm there? Maybe a used 80-400 VR?


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9459 posts, RR: 72
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5229 times:
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Buy a Sigma 70-200 APO EX and a 1.4x teleconverter

User currently offlineKiwiNanday From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5208 times:

Maybe you could post which Nikon lenses you own? They could be very old and antiquated, giving unacceptable results and performance on a D70. If that were the case, then you could look again at Canon vs. Nikon.

It is a Vivitar 70-210 w/ AF

User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5191 times:

In the left corner we have: The nikon D70, a black minority fighting for sales, in the other corner: The triumphant EOS 300D! A plastic wondermachine, it still manages to steal the hearts of many photographers!


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offline737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 48
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

In the left corner we have: The nikon D70, a black minority fighting for sales, in the other corner: The triumphant EOS 300D! A plastic wondermachine, it still manages to steal the hearts of many photographers!

I don't know about that... When I went to buy a new camera, I shopped around at several camera stores. Everyone had 300D's in stock, while lots of places were sold out of D70's.

From what I read on the Internet and heard from other photographers was that both cameras are comparable machines and come highly recommended. What sold me on the D70 was the way it felt in my hands. It feels much more sturdy and substantial than the 300D.



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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5178 times:

And that is the best advice I heard in this thread. Play with both of them, see what you like best, do you like the Canon layout, or do you like the Nikon? Both are pretty good cameras!

Wietse


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineKiwiNanday From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5175 times:

I don't know about that... When I went to buy a new camera, I shopped around at several camera stores. Everyone had 300D's in stock, while lots of places were sold out of D70's.

From what I read on the Internet and heard from other photographers was that both cameras are comparable machines and come highly recommended. What sold me on the D70 was the way it felt in my hands. It feels much more sturdy and substantial than the 300D.


I probably should do that. Thank you for the advice!
~Jake

User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5140 times:

Hi there Kiwi

I just bought a Canon 300D EOS.....and I'm happy with it  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

My uncle was here about 2 weeks ago ... he had a Nikon D70 with him...I found it a very good camera. But the fact that I live in South Africa and Nikon do NOT have great support services here , the fact that my dad is a professional photographer and has used Canon's all his life is why we opted for the 300D.

With it a Canon 18-55mm lense and a Sigma 70-300mm

Rgds  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
SA006


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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2477 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5142 times:

its just what you like, if you want a big asortiment of lenses , buy the canon 300D (same reason i bought it) , if you want a solid body and you prefer Nikon, just buy the D70  Laugh out loud



greetings maurice!


User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

Well all this information came from a few well trained individuals at the camera store I work at, and I heard it from a guy from Nikon as well.

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