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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4781 times:

Hi,

I've recently received an email from an NTSB investigator about a photo of mine of an aircraft which crashed a couple of days after I took the photo...the email came from an ntsb.gov email address and I googled the name to be sure that it is legitimate, and infact it is...he is the one in charge of the case of the crashed aircraft in question...the email doesnt specify any use for the photo, only that I send them to him...I've never received such a request before and I'm not too sure about what to do...any advice and suggestions would be much appreciated...

Thanks so much,
Greg


Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
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User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4774 times:

I'd send it! Right away! It's a beautiful thing to help out the NTSB!!!


I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2037 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4725 times:

This is one instance where I wouldn't feel good about a fee. Just my personal feeling.


It takes a big man to admit they are wrong, and I am not a big man.
User currently offlineWhaley From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4677 times:

I'd say mail the raw and/or highest resolution unmodified picture you have, and ofcourse you may include a polite request to be informed of what the investigator is planning to do with it. Personally, if I were the photographer I would be glad to give them the non-exclusive right to use the photo in anything related to the accident, like the investigation itself and the resulting report(s).

User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4668 times:

Greg,
Could you share with us which photo that is? Thanks!

Sebastian



I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

It's not on a.net, unfortunately...its a rather terrible photo that I took from an aircraft as we taxied past it and only has any significance because of that a/c's fate...thanks again for your advice, I appreciate it!

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Greg,
How did this guy see the photo if it was not on a.net?


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4568 times:

It is on another site...I posted here because I feel l would get the best advice from here as you guys are the most experienced and know just about everything about anything with what to do...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineRomeoKC10FE From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

What type of A/C is was it, where can we see it, how about a link.

User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

i'd send the picture. perhaps, somthing there might be relevant in the investigation. i wouldn't argue about compensation, govt agencies aren't likely to put them on websites. just ask that they credit ou if they ever do use it in any publication.


"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
User currently offlineRotor1 From Tajikistan, joined Mar 2003, 230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4414 times:

Tell them you'll trade -- One of those nifty blue windbreakers with NTSB written on the back for use of the photo. I've gotten lots of t-shirt for photo trades, this should be no different.

Then again, they might be investigating you. Looking for proof that aviation photographers cause airplane crashes... an attempt to end the hobby.

-Mike



The best aviation photo I've ever taken was rejected by Airliners.net
User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4407 times:

Then again, they might be investigating you. Looking for proof that aviation photographers cause airplane crashes... an attempt to end the hobby.

scary thought, good idea on the trade though!!



"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3669 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

I hope the trade idea was a joke. We're talking about a photo of a crashed aircraft, and it sounds to me as if they're asking for it to directly assist in or support an investigation. (There's no other reason they'd need a "terrible" photo of an airplane taken from the window of another airplane - they could easily get a perfect photo of almost any aircraft if they just wanted to show what an aircraft looked like before a crash. There must be something they see in the photo.)

Give them the picture, no questions asked, no strings attached. If it's such a bad photo to begin with, I don't even see why you'd care what's done with it. Not every photo is worth defending to begin with, and if the NTSB is asking for it in relation to an investigation, I think you have a moral obligation to give it to them.



I'm tired of being a wanna-be league bowler. I wanna be a league bowler!
User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4395 times:

Allright, all is said and done with, I sent him an attachment with the photo...also requested that if possible that my name be credited if used in a presentation or government publication...I got an acknowledgement that he received the picture fine, and no further questions so Im going to assume thats the end of the matter...

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20030718X01141&ntsbno=MIA03FA141&akey=1 -This is the crash report of the aircraft in question, Im sure if you googled the reg. you'd eventually end up at the picture, I'm hesitant to post a direct link as it may be against the rules here, Im not too sure...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
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