AA777 From United States, joined May 1999, 2390 posts, RR: 43 Posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1760 times:
Here are the options:
Nikon D70
Canon EOS Digital Rebel
Canon EOS 10 D
(Any others you recommend)
Comments? I am thinking of buying one soon, since I really want a Digital SLR. I hear the D70 is better, but it costs more. I just want to make sure that the photo quality is the best it can be.... And that they will get accepted onto the Database! What is the most popular high end camera among A.netters?
ANY AND ALL COMMENTS WILL BE APPRECIATED!
-AA777
When the government fears the people, there is liberty; when the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
DLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1716 times:
Good luck getting an unbiased answer...
IMO I think Canon would be your better choice, because then you will be able to buy those o-so nice L lenses. Also, I think Canon cameras produce a deeper color than the nikon counterparts.
AA777 From United States, joined May 1999, 2390 posts, RR: 43 Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1665 times:
1200 is my maximum (preferably around or under 1000). I found awesome packages for a canon EOS 10D with a Tamron 300mm lens... for $1050. Also, they have a D70 w/ a lens for $789. Its not a mainstream site, but who knows. Its at Royal Camera.com... doesn't seem too shady...
Oh, and any recommendations on Lenses / sizes.... I think 300mm is definitley enough. But I dont know what size most a.netters use.... None of those crazy $1000-plus dollar telephoto lenses either.... lets be real here... lol
-AA777
When the government fears the people, there is liberty; when the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
AviatorTJ From United States, joined Jul 2003, 1801 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1662 times:
Royal,
You don't run Royal Camera??
By the way, one of my family members uses both the 300D and the D70 and says that the Nikon destroys the Canon without trying. For what its worth. I hope to get my hands on his cameras and see for myself soon.
Xpfg From United States, joined Oct 2003, 585 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1625 times:
Though I see this turning into a pissfest, I hope it really doesn't.
First off, I would like to say I was a convert from Nikon and now have the Digital Rebel. To me, the color depth appears much better on my Canon camera, but again, this is just my opinion. If I would choose between the 300D and 10D, obviously the 10D would be a good choice, but the 300D overall is NOT a bad camera. While I don't have the D70 from Nikon, I do have a friend that does, and he seems to favor my camera at times. Another plus to the Canon, as stated above, is the L glass lenses, though this is not to say that Nikon doesn't have nice lenses either.
If you would like some advice in places to buy, I like you, wanted to find the cheapest deal. Unfortunately, those deals that are good, really ARE too good and not real. You are better off going to a respected seller and knowing that what you are getting is what you pay for. Good places that I reccommend and I know have a good reliability rate are:
UTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 57 Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1600 times:
If you are not in a hurry, I strongly suggest you :
a) save up a little more
b) wait for Christmas sales/rebates/coupons/whatever
c) get a 20D.
Here in DUB the other photogs have the aforementioned 10D/300D/D70, and while these are good cameras in terms of photo quality, the 20D trounces them with its 9-point AF, 8.5MP, 23-shot buffer and faster read/write times.
We have had quite a few rare aircraft (for DUB) these past weeks (look them up yourselves, this isn't a plugging thread), and while the other photogs were saying "Rhaa !" after a few shots as their camera's buffer was full (making them miss shots even though their AF/lens were up to the task) while I was at my 11th or 12th shot and the 20D hadn't even started to write to the card yet !
If you can afford it, get it - you won't regret the purchase.
Will
Fly to live, live to fly - Air France/KLM Flying Blue Platinum, BMI Diamond Club Gold, Emirates Skywards
JeffM From United States, joined May 2005, 3247 posts, RR: 58 Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1594 times:
"What is the most popular high end camera among A.netters?"
I guess that would depend on your definition of "high end". Most photographers would consider cameras like the D70, D100, 300D, 10D, 20D, to be mid range cameras. They are more capeable then the point and shoots, but not quite up to the level of say the 1D MK2, etc.
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"By the way, one of my family members uses both the 300D and the D70 and says that the Nikon destroys the Canon without trying. For what its worth. I hope to get my hands on his cameras and see for myself soon.
-TJ"
I own both the D100 and 10D and can say the exact opposite. And that is not a second hand comparison. But, ymmv.
Ckw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1518 times:
For its price, the 20D is a remarkable camera with significant enhancements where needed. There is a much bigger differentiation between the 20D and the 10D or D70 than there is between the 10D and D70 (if that makes sense ).
Look at it another way, while just a couple of months ago, the 1D Mk2 was pretty much out there on its own, now may serious photographers (including pros) are struggling to choose between the Mk 2 and the 20D.
As a futher note however, any of the cameras mentioned, and indeed many much cheaper models will produce acceptable A.net quality. None of the cameras mentioned - or any other - will give you any certainty of acceptance. Getting pics on A.net is not a good criteria for buying a DSLR.
Staffan From Sweden, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1486 times:
If you are on a budget it might be a good idea to check what you can find used. There are loads of people selling 10D's and 300D's in favor for the 20D and real bargains can be made. Get some good lenses too!
Erwin972 From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 498 posts, RR: 57 Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1383 times:
Or better, try them out yourself if there is a possibility either at the shop or with friends and just find out yourself which brand suits you best. Make a few pictures on a CF card of your own and have a look at them at home.
All those camera's dont really differ that much so in the end most new DSLR will be very good.
And now for my biased opinion: go for Nikon of course (D70 or D200), they have rocking VR-glass-lenses, the ergonomics are great, battery life is amazing and oh yes,pictures are great (less color depth you said? - look at a few of my pictures - I recieved numerous e-mail from ppl who thought I was shooting with fancy Canon stuff).
Anyway: good luck with the decision!
Kind regards,
Erwin
Before you send an e-mail about my gear: it's all Nikon
AA777 From United States, joined May 1999, 2390 posts, RR: 43 Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1201 times:
Any recommendations for a good lens to go with the D70 or EOS? .... I am looking for at least 200 mm, and 300 should be preferably... 200 should be sufficient though.
-AA777
When the government fears the people, there is liberty; when the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
Diezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 623 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1193 times:
For the D70:
My first choice: the Nikkor 80-400VR ($1350). EF quality with image stabilization. Not the fastest lens but small and sturdy. Extremely good value for money.
Second choice: Nikkor 80-200 EF F2.8. Excellent sharpness and super fast for under $800 new (and as low as $450 used) together with a Kenko AF Pro 300 2X teleconverter ($199)
For on the side: Nikkor 24mm F2.8 or the Nikkor 18mm F2.8. Both ideal for window shots.
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