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My First Digital Photos, Any Advice?  
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

Hi everybody,

This past saturday I bought my first digital camera, the Canon EOS300D. I must say I am very happy with the photo quality so far. However, as I am still new with taking photos of aircraft that are taking off or landing, I was wondering if any experienced photographer in this forum and/or on airliners.net can give me advice on how to take good aircraft photos. Below you will find my first digital photos I have uploaded which are waiting in the qeue for screening.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/show_photos_in_queue.main?email=rcannegieter@yahoo.com&date=2004-10-17

One thing I already see, is that I should level the photos as the ground is not 'level' in the photos I've taken so far. This is tough to realise I noticed. How about the photo quality, any tips on how to improve that or are my photos shown in the link of good, acceptable quality?

Can anyone give me advice on these photos and how I can improve my photographing skills regarding aircraft photos?

Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

A388  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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User currently offlineUS333 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4438 times:

Hello, it's unfortunate that the weather didn't work out on your first day, your results could have been much better. The very first thing I see is that the image has to be properly leveled. Also, you want to crop in close to the image so that the aircraft fills the frame fully and you want to avoid fences or any other distracting objects in the foreground. If you could tell me what kind of software you are using for post processing and what you are doing in the program itself then we can go from there. Not bad though for your first time and in not so great weather.

-Kyle


User currently offlineSoBe From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 256 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4384 times:

That's a definite on the level.

I've just started as well. So my newbie opinion is the easyjet pic has the best shot but I think I am seeing a lot of noise in the pic. I could be totally wrong though.  Innocent

Cheers,
Michael


User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 810 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4373 times:

What steps did you use to post process these photos? Did you crop the photo at all, or simply resize the original to what you linked to?

Also, if you know that a photo is not level, why did you upload it? I don't want to sound harsh, but that is just a waste of the screeners time and everyone else who has photos in the queue behind you.



Jet City Aviation Photography
User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3624 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

They seem to be out of the queue now, so I can't look at them...

But yeah, if it's so noticeable to others, you really have to learn how to level. I've had rejections for badlevel too but those were photos where I could barely even tell with the grid on and literally looking at the photo from an inch away at 300% magnification - that shows you how tough the screeners are on this. In most cases I can understand it; there is no excuse for badlevel on most photos, as it's a simple, simple thing to fix. The only excuse is sloppiness and I accuse myself of that as well.

This is a question I see a lot around here, and it really shouldn't even need to be asked. This is not an advanced technique where the hows and whys are nebulous and there are different methods of doing it. A simple google search of either "rotation" or "level" and the name of your image editor will bring up dozens, if not hundreds, of results on how to do it, and it's usually a simple menu command. It should also be in the help file or manual that came with your image editor. This is photo post-processing 101, and it actually applies equally to digital and film (film photos can be cropped and leveled at several points in the process, but it's easiest to do it digitally after scanning them).

Don't know what else to suggest for your photos as I can't see them from the above link. I'm guessing they probably didn't make it through screening if they weren't level, but you could rotate and then re-submit.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

Thanks for the help. As I've told before, I don't have enough experience with photo editing. So, the main thing I have to do is level the photos, which can be done with a photo editing software? I currently use Paint Shop pro 8 to edit my photos. I only sharpen the photos a little bit and resize them. Cropping up and levelling my photos is also needed, I see. Should I rotate/level the photos with the digital camera (by using the small LCD screen?) or which software is recommended to do this?

I also can't find a function in Paint Shop Pro to crop up an image, so is Paint Shop Pro the right software to level/rotate/crop up an image?

A388


User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4272 times:

there are plenty of threads on photo editing in the forum, here's three to get you started. Even if the particular editing suite / camera set up isn't the same as yours, the basics still apply.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/135311/

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/73862/

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/62512/


User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 810 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4131 times:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=paint+shop+pro+photo+editing

Google... it's an amazing thing...  Smile



Jet City Aviation Photography
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

Thanks for info everybody. I have to learn to work with Photoshop and Paintshop Pro in order to be able to upload better quality photos. I was working with both software two days ago, but can't find the tools to level the photos and the USM. What is USM? I got to see the crop functions, but what does that exactly do? Does it cut away the selection you've made of a image? What's the difference between cropping an image and resizing an image? Sorry that I ask these questions, but I'm very new when it comes down to working with photo editing software. The only thing I mostly do when using these programs is brighten, sharpen and resize the photos.

I need someone who can actually sit next to me and guide me through the steps. I don't know much about the technical terms (yet). Anyone who can help me by telling me how to work with Photoshop and Paintshop Pro and explain it in a simple manner, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the help so far  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

A388  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3965 times:

USM is unsharp mask. You can find it under 'Filter', then 'Sharpen", then "Unsharp mask in PS.
I usually set the Amount at 130-160 percent, the Radius at 0.5 pixels and the Threshold at 0. After that you can save the photo as a Tiff file.
Next go to and download their noise reduction software, it's free. Process the image using Neat Image to reduce the noise and then save it as a Jpeg file.



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User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3872 times:

That should read "Next go to http://www.neatimage.com...."


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