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Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?  
User currently offlineFlightcheck From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2001, 47 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Dear all,

I recently had a good day shooting at LHR on Thus 21st October 2004. The weather was perfect and there were lots of great aircraft to see.

Now I do use a Canon 1D MkII and 100-400L glass, so sometimes, when the light is right, I do not require a great deal of post image processing to get the results that I want.

The question I have is that having got the images home and on my PC, I sit down, crack open a can of John Smiths Extra Smooth bitter and begin to inspect my images, the ones that I like I tidy up in Photoshop CS. Now, sometimes (as I find this relaxing), I may spend an evening or two looking and editing my images while consuming my alcohol, but there may be the odd night that I may drink a little too much, say, having flattening 4 cans of bitter, then start on a bottle of red wine……

I feel that while the more I drink, the better my images look, and I may be able to enhance the composition, as my creative flair seems to be evoked. This is all great until I receive the e-mails from the screeners for my images as being rejected for been ‘baddirty’ and include the message ‘Dirt that finds its way into the final image can often be repaired by using the cloning tool available in most photo manipulation software’.

My alcohol consumption (and I do not feel, yet!!, that I have a drink problem) seems that on occasions, I do make elementary image editing errors, like not removing dust spots or not sharpening or getting the correct colour etc.

I was wondering if this is the case for any others?

Best Regards

Kevin Minter (now sober from last nights image editing session!!!)  Nuts


PS here are a couple of rejected examples:

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=a40-ld-lhr-km-211004.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=vh-oef-lhr-km-211004.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=vt-esn-lhr-km-211004.jpg




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User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

Can you tell us what they were rejected for, because on the first shot, I see about 8 dust spots!

Sebastian



I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
User currently offlineNubbins From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

I think the key here would be to send the screeners, before uploading, the same amount of alcohol you consumed...

User currently offlineFlightcheck From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2001, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

Hi,

All three rejection reasons were:

"The scan looks dirty. This message may also appear if there was dirt or scratches on the slide or negative. Dirt that finds its way into the final image can often be repaired by using the cloning tool available in most photo
manipulation software".

Kevin.




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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

Whilst alcohol will surely impair judgement and won't help your ability to check detail errors, I too like the odd tipple whilst editing & sorting images. Assuming you're not roaring drunk whilst doing it, the results should be okay  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I think the 'square eyes' phenomenon is more critical. You can spend so much time working images that your error-checking goes out and you make silly errors with dustspots, centreing, and levelling.

Gary Watt, who wrote the submissions guide, recommends taking a break from images you've edited and going back to them later. Not easy if you're incredibly impatient like me, but well worth it.

Cheers


James



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User currently offlineWoody001 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 529 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Hi Kevin,
I can see the dust in the first image, bottom right.

The others I can't tell as my monitor at work is crap.

Have you cleaned the sensor since you got the camera..?

Ian.




If I could just get the afterburner working...
User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

Maybe this will help. I took the liberty of playing around with the levels a bit, and then I circled the dust spots that I saw on a first glance:

http://www.soma-band.com/a40-ld-lhr-km-211004.jpg

The others have the dust on the same places, you just can't really notice them unless they are on the blue sky.

Hope this helps!

Sebastian



I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
User currently offlineWanderer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

I like to think that alcohol aids the editing process.
I must admit that if I took a/c pics in 35mm and tried to upload the scans here as things (i.e. my scanner) are at the moment, I'd not stand a chance as my scanner is on its' last legs and the scans show it - despite cleaning and re-installation of software.


User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

On second thought, you might see just baddoubles  Big grin

Dust on the sensor is a problem, not that big it can be eliminated. But it's better to have the sensor clean rather than edit all the spot out on the image.




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User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2081 times:

Kevin, you're not alone mate. But, in my case, I can admit I have a problem!! BTW, this gin is absolutely wonderful!
SePncer...hic!



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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2037 times:

Ever wake up and find yourself lying next to a very ugly girl? Seem principle at work there....


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