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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

So if somebody could help me out on seeing something that i'm not, that would be great.




Someone please help me, If these seriously are badquality I think my eyes are starting to go on me. But if they are badquality/badmotiv/badeveryotherreasonilisted, please help me maybe fix them?

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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3267 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

1. overexposed and grainy feeling. (bad time of day)
2. same
3. same
(could be bad processing that caused this?)

4. Too much space on the right, and "badfueltruck" (obvious)
5. My eye wanders the photo... engine? or people? engine? or people? engine? or people?
6. Definitely "badexposure". The ray of light and the windscreen tricked your exposure. You are not showing both yokes which you could have if you took this in landscape mode versus portrait mode. There are reflections on the instrument panel. Lots of soft stuff that should be in focus on the pedestal. It has that grainy feeling too. If you had exposed for the outside then used some fill flash it might have helped, but at that time of day it would be "iffy".

It is a fun show, but it's not suited to photography.

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2469 times:


Wow, when I opened this thread I expected a verbal assault  Big grin

Anyway, Thanks. I might be able to improve the first three grain-wise, and I Think if I crop the engine in no. 5 then It might help my motiv purposes.

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3267 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

It's not your fault. Shooting at that time of day is almost not worth the time. I've been a few times and have many that have the same symptoms.

User currently offlineDraigonair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 709 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

You can maybe makethe photo of the tail smaller...so you can see the whole pic and not 'look' around...and maybe crop abit!



User currently offlineKC7MMI From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 854 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

Sure the light is bad, but those are some good photos. No reason to reject 'em...especially the first 3.

User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2366 times:


I like these. With the exception of the cockpit shot, and the engine/people shot, I think every one of those could be rescued. The badquality rejections are only marginally so; I'd be definitely tempted to spend some time working on them.

My first thought when I looked at the first three was "Bloody hell, it looks hot there!". The sunlight looks almost overwhelming, but I reckon the exposure is okay on the first three. Have a play with the tone curves or shadow/highlight tools. Try and bring out some more contrast in the picture - slightly richer blue to the sky etc.

It looks like you've got that light that washes out edges ever so slightly, which means that USM doesn't work so well. I think that might cause you problems on 2 & 3 (of the first set).

I think with a bit of cropping,


Could be absolutely mega!



It takes a big man to admit they are wrong, and I am not a big man.
User currently offlineLyzzard From Singapore, joined Nov 2003, 404 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

1. N903TA - Was this shot through glass? I thought I could see some reflections in the ground area.

3. N780E - Levelling looks a little off to me. Needs a bit of left tilt.

The cockpit shot does look over exposed. You should meter with the light outside the window and fill the cockpit with a flash. That way both inside and outside are properly exposed.

User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 740 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Hi Eric

As I get older my eyesight is supposed to be heading down the toilet so I'm surprised no-one has mentioned all the dust spots in the first three shots which may explain the bad quality rejection. The first two shots in particular have a lot.

The good news is I think N808WEngineRamp is terrific. BadMotiv is always a tough reason for a rejection but life goes on.

All the best


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User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1885 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Maybe sharpen the first 3 a little?

Very nice shots and , as Sulman said , that engine shot is awsome!

Good luck  Big thumbs up


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