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Commercial Sales At A.net?  
User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

There's an interesting discussion in Site-Related about the possibility of a
Commercial Sales feature on Airliners.net.

If you haven't seen it, please visit and put in your feedback.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/30491/



Tommy Mogren


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User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

As showed in the thread you link to it is pretty obvious that a Commercial Sales feature would be of benefit to a LOT of photographers here.

I want this feature.

/JM



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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

What is this the mutual admiration society?

"I have been reading with great interest regarding the photo sales aspect of all this and I agree totally with Phil. I recently removed my pics from the photo sales feature here for that same reason that I want to deal with the customers myself.

Depending on the customer I have allowed picture usage for free and for others charged hundreds of $. Sometimes the client goes elsewhere, so be it. It's a free market, just like we search the internet for the best deal before buying our camera or lenses so do people when buying images.

In addition many people have posted on here links to websites that help you determine what you should charge for your pics. Who will determine what is the market price? What will happen if you think that the prices are too high/ too low? If I was Johan I wouldn't want that headache.

As far as enjoying all the services for free, isn't it actually enjoying the services for free if commercial sales transactions become a.net's or Johan's responsibility?
If you want to market your images as a business, set up your own image bank like http://www.gettyimages.com , put some effort into the business (i.e. website, paypal etc.) rather than wanting/demanding someone else to do all the work IMHO.

My $0.02"


I had posted the above on the other thread but it's relevant here too.

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

>What is this the mutual admiration society?<
You mean you and Phil?

>I recently removed my pics from the photo sales feature<
This isn't about the print sales.

>Depending on the customer I have allowed picture usage for free<
Nothing is stopping you from that.

>Who will determine what is the market price?<
I guess The market? Comparing different price lists would give a good hint.

>What will happen if you think that the prices are too high/ too low?<
Either there is an agreement before going ahead with this, or you could just opt out.

>If I was Johan I wouldn't want that headache.<
Well, he said he could do it if the photographers wanted it.

>isn't it actually enjoying the services for free if commercial sales transactions become a.net's or Johan's responsibility?<
Johan would get a percentage, so no it isn't.
A.net would make money from it.

/JM






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User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2569 times:


For those who need more input, here's a great thread about
a similar request.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/109546/4/

Tommy Mogren



Flightdeck Action - Cockpit Videos on Blu-ray and DVD - Flights In The Cockpit- You're Invited!
User currently offlineAviation From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 1143 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

It would be a great feature in my opinion if they had a discount optics section I would benifit greatly!

GREAT IDEA! LOVE TO SEE IT!

Thanks,
Aaron J Nicoli



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User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

As long as we the photographers can set our own prices  Smile/happy/getting dizzy))))))))
Mark Garfinkel


User currently offlineAviation From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 1143 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2366 times:

Im in for that mark!


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User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

I'd like to see such an (optional!) feature, but why is nobody replying anymore in the site related thread...?  Insane

We should keep this running if we really want that!



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

The thread in Site-Related is active.
Posts to be read...



Tommy Mogren



Flightdeck Action - Cockpit Videos on Blu-ray and DVD - Flights In The Cockpit- You're Invited!
User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

I think the only flaw with making this service optional is that If 50% of the photographers on here have their photo's for sale through this service and a company wants to purchase the rights to a rather common type of photo, the only people who are going to make sales are those that have the airliners.net service set up. It will soon become more or less mandatory if you want to have any hope of selling your images. I could be way off base here, but I think the whole thing would get way too confusing. Some photographers want to set their own prices, others don't. Compound that with the seemingly innumerable amount of variables that could affect the price of the usage and I question the feasibility of such a system.

Regards



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User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

"Compound that with the seemingly innumerable amount of variables that could affect the price of the usage and I question the feasibility of such a system."

What innumerable variables are you referring to?

Staffan


User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

Different uses of the photo. Today on the forum, I even read of a company who wanted to buy a photo from a photographer to paint on the side of their truck!


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User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/30491/

As suggested, very special uses would still need to be handled differently. But what about the other 99%?

Staffan


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