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Miami Intl Airport Hotel... Info Please  
User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4226 times:

Im looking at maybe staying a few days in the Miami Intl Airport Hotel. As its slap bang in the middle of concourse E im sure the view from the rooms must be stunning. Also it has a pool and a sun deck to keep the wife and kids happy  Smile .....

Has anyone ever been there..... If yes can you confirm the following.

1) I have been told every runway can be watched for spotting. Is this true.
2) What are the views from the Hotel like for Photography. I did a search on A.Net and pretty much nothing. My max focal length will be 300 mm + 1.4 Extender.

3) This ones for the wife and kids. Whats the pool and sun deck like.... Have i found my dream airport that i can lie by the pool while spotting and taking photo's !!!!!

If anyone can confirm any info on this hotel i would be very greatfull.

Thanks
Simon C.

PS : I have already done all the normal goggle searches etc etc. But not found alot !!!!!


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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

I checked it out about a year ago. From what I recall not the best view in the world, but you can still see the happenings. I think photography is going to be a bit limited up there.

Justin


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4184 times:

So am i right in thinking it will be great for spotting (ie all reg numbers on the field can be logged with a good pair of binoculars) but limited for photography !!

I did find this photo though , which don't seem to bad !!!! (Thats if its from the correct hotel that is.)


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User currently offlineDB777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 885 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4169 times:
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I would seriously rethink staying there if I were you. They closed the 8th floor last year and it is still closed. The hotel operator just told me that it probably won't re-open until the end of 2005. The 8th floor has the pool, exercise room, snack bar and lounge on the south end, and none of them are open.

Their website is very misleading because they have photos of the pool, poolside snackbar, sauna and steamroom, health spa, racquetball courtt, etc. on it. Their homepage has a superimposed Southwest 737 on some of the rotating photos and Southwest doesn't serve MIA. If I booked it with my family and expected all those amenities because of their website I'd be mighty pissed if I showed up and learned that they don't exist.

You can confirm the above by calling 305.871.4100, U.S. and Canada TOLL FREE 1.800.327.1276.

The Hotel MIA website is located at http://www.miahotel.com

You would be much better off staying at the Hilton on the south side of the airport. They have very nice amenities and you can photograph runway 9 and 12 takeoffs, and runway 30 approaches, from their property next to Blue Lagoon and not far from the pool area. Your wife and kids would be much better off there for poolside activities.

Don

Edit: added website which is difficult to locate

[Edited 2005-01-06 18:15:22]


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User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4161 times:

Brilliant (i think)....... You have saved me alot of hassle there Don. If thats the case the Website is VERY VERY missleading !!!!!

I was already a bit worried that the pool was a little small. Now i have found out that the 8th floor is SHUT i won't even bother looking any further at this Hotel. I would have been very very pissed of to have traveled all the way from the UK to find that out !!!!!! I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH  Smile  Smile

I stayed at the Hilton at FLL and it was very nice. So im sure that the Hilton MIA will be just as good. Don , do you know if any of the rooms have airport views aswell ??? And can you also log everything with a good pair of Binoclars from the hotel grounds or rooms ????? My plan is for Spotting from the room all days (07.00 till 10.30 then 17.00 till 16.00) with Photograhy on at least 2 full days.

Thanks a million !!!!
Simon C



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User currently offlineDB777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 885 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4134 times:
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I have seen video and photos taken from the north end of the top floor with lonnng lenses that are pretty interesting. Some of the photos are here on airliners.net but I don't know where.

The Hilton is still quite a bit south of MIA's southern runway (9-27) but with your lense and extender you shouldn't have a problem photographing what I told you about in my previous post. Heat haze might be present also depending on the weather. I don't know if the Hilton will guarantee a top floor room on the north end of the hotel which would be the best room location. I believe the rooms face east and/or west and that the video guy and photogs used the north end of the hallway balcony to shoot from.

You will not be able to get reg numbers from aircraft operating off of 8L-26R and 8R-26L because they are too far away. Nor will you get 12 landings unless they roll out pretty far down the runway. I understand that 12 landings are kind of rare now that they have two parallels on the north side.


Don



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1669 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4128 times:
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HEAD SCREENER

It is a hell of a long time since I was last there, 1979 but I remember the Marriott being pretty good (if it is even still called that)
Strangely, the photo you put up as an example has it in the photo, the buff coloured building directly under the 727.
No Connys on that photo.....my how things have changed!
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

Are there any offical viewing areas for MIA....From reading what Don has said it looks like I will miss alot on the other runways from the hotel.

Once again i have done all the searches with little or no luck. I cannot believe an Airport like MIA does not have its own aviation web site !!!

Thanks
Simon C



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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

I don't know where are you looking for web site but here is one for MIA airport
http://www.miaairport.com/

Don't stay at Airways Hotel - Name is nice but it was the biggest dump I have stayed in my entire life.

Rafal


User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

The Hilton does have rooms with an airport view. It's a strange layout, like a 'V' with the point facing away from the airport, so there are only a few rooms with a head-on view (at the end of each corridor), the rest are slighlty slanted. A lot have small balconies which helps resolve the angles, and the good news is that the 'popular' rooms which most guests would prefer are those facing the lagoon not the airport.

Even when the MIA terminal hotel roof was open, I stayed at the Hilton anyway. It's a much better quality and the grounds, pool etc. are vastly superior.

As for 'official' viewing there is only one spot where it's tolerated, at the 12 threshold. Nothing in the terminal and the perimeter road lay-bys have been closed ever since 9/11/01. You might be OK at Eldorado furniture, it seems it depends on the cops on duty that day.


User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4111 times:

Jeez Simon, you sure do ask a lot of questions prior to your vactions. As far as spotting locations are concerned at many airports, go out and buy the book "Airports for Enthusiasts" - I think it costs £15.95 from the Aviation Hobby Shop. It has narrative spotting details for many of the world's airports (for some of the larger major airports it even has charts showing the best spotting locations), and its updated every two years - I suspect a new version will be out sometime next year. With that book, you can plan all your future vacations from your arm chair at home.

The hotel in that photo is now the Comfort Inn - not the most salubrious of accommodations, which goes for most of the places on NW36th Street. And finally, there are holes in the fence at the end of r/w 12 where spotting and photographing is tollerated, and most people manage to spend time at El Dorado funiture at the end of 9R without much trouble, but from past experiences post 9/11 most other places you'll be chased off. Both these locations are at the far end of the field from the hotels, so you'll need a car.

Andy


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4090 times:

Andy.... Its all in the planning  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Im always very willing to offer info on LHR if anyone asks. And i think most photogs here are also very kind and forthcomming with info on their home airports.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I already have the Newest Buch Air "Airports" book..... (infact i think i have every book going ). The problem is often it never mentions Hotels (as in this case). Also look on any Hotel website and the last thing they ever want to tell you about is the great airport views.

I have been a spotter for 30+ years (and a photographer for 1) and have always found it much better to speak to people on the ground rather than look in a book. Just look at the Miami Intl Hotel. Everywhere it states that you can view the aircraft from level 8. It even has on their current website pictures of the pool..... But thank goodness i spoke to Don as there now all closed !!!!

If someone would be kind enough to start a up to date website with all the hotels with airport views it would make my life so much easier.... There is a website run by some chap here in the UK with a Greek name. But after looking for over 2 hours last night without success i gave up...

Lindy : I ment aircraft spotting / photography sites for MIA. Not just the airport website. Here in the UK we have Spotters/Photographers websites that cover best spots , views etc etc.... Guess were just spoilt over here  Smile

Visityyj : Cheers for the info. Good news about the hotel layout. Hope i have a more helpfull check in girl than i had when i visited the Hilton at FLL. Thanks for the Eldorado Furniture tip aswell...... Just looks like MIA is one of those annoying airports where everything lands and takes of drom 5 differnt runways. Why can't everyone be as helpfull as LHR. One runway for landing and one for taking off. Nice and simple !!!!!



Thanks all and sorry for being a pain  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Simon C



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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4068 times:

Simon,

Did you check Art's web page?
Without his map on FLL I would be lost last month at FLL. I was crusing around the airport but I couldn't find the spot. His map came handy.
Here is link to his webpage with MIA locations
http://www.anniebees.com/Photos/SpottingMIA.htm

Rafal


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12573 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4060 times:
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Art's website is good, but does need updating. For example it doesn't show the parallel runways on the north side. I did use it to spend a pleasant couple of hours on top of the car park at FLL though!


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User currently offlineDB777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 885 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4058 times:
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Simon, you're not a pain at all and it was a good thing you asked in this forum or you would have been screwed.

There's been some changes to the runways since Art created the map that the link above takes you to.

1. As of 8/26/03, there's another runway between what he shows as 9L-27R and NW 36th Street (labeled Doral Boulevard on the map). The new runway is 8L-26R (it was originally 8-26 but renumbered this past year).

2. 9L-27R is now 8R-26L (renumbered when 8-26 turned into 8L-26R)

3. 9R-27L is now 9-27 (renumbered when northside runways were renumbered)

The link to MIA's official website goes to a commercial site which makes money off of ads on it. The official MIA website is at http://www.miami-airport.com

Simon, you are correct - too many runways and not like Heathrow. However, you can nail more aircraft from the photo holes location when the airport is in an east operation (3 runways versus 1 plus runway 9 is rarely used for takeoff except for cargo flights). You'll miss some good stuff coming from the south and landing on 9 though. If the airport is in a west operation, runway 30 is heavily used for landings and you can shoot approaches from the Hilton grounds next to Blue Lagoon and maybe from a good room balcony if you have the lens length.

Don



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User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

Cheers Don for the excellent info. The ironic part of it is that one of the most helpfull people i have spoken to in the past by email/forums when arranging trips is Alan Lord. And guess what he's the author of the "Airports" book !!!!  Smile I have to go into so much detail planning these trips as i have my wife and 2 young kids with me. If i was on my own i could just go there and change/pick hotels at the time.... But thats not possible with the family in tow. I have to get it perfect from the start so its for one a successfull trip,and also that they have a good holiday aswell !!!

If it was not for the helpfull people here and on "civil spotter forum" like you and Andy (even though he did moan  Smile ) it would be impossible to get everything 100% before i arrive....

One final quation on the runways.... (I promise its the last). Im now planning to stay for 7 days. The question is do certain airlines only use certain runways. Or do they swap arround ????

Thanks all
Simon C  Smile




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User currently offlineDB777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 885 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4013 times:
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It depends on weather, ATC workload, where they're parking on the airfield, etc., but generally aircraft coming from the south use 9 for landing in an east operation (70% of the time annually) and aircraft from the north, west and east use 8L and 8R and occasionally 12. There are exceptions of course.

In a west operation, aircraft coming from the south generally use 30 for landings, with aircraft coming from the north, west and east using 26L and 26R, with some landing on 30. Cargo aircraft going to the cargo areas on the west side will often use 27.

Don



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User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

Simon,

I was only pulling your leg...  Big grin And if you check back, I'm usually happy to help when I can, even recommending best room numbers in hotels (@ PMI) to someone on at least one occasion.

Seriously, I'm sure Don knows best. I've never seen the airport landing from the east. One thing though - you'll be on the south side and sooner or later something interesting will come in on the north side, or you'll be at the holes next to 12 and will see something interesting rolling out on the south side. MIA seems to me its slightly more predictable than LAX, but not much more so, and hardly any easier to read off registrations on one side from the eother!

Maybe I'll be able to qualify my observations further after next week  Smile

Andy


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

Thanks Don..... That realy helps  Smile

Cheers also Andy. Look forward to hearing from you when you return  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Thanks all...
Simon C



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User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Hi all again.....

I have been told by "Perry" by email (gather he's not got a forum log in) cheers  Smile that the comfort inn and suites for location is far better than the Hilton.... Anyone ever been there ??????



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User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

The Comfort Inn is that hotel in Jean's photo above... It is a great location for spotting, especially for a/c on the north side, but nowhere near as good for photos as the view is to the south. Its also nowhere near as nice a hotel to stay in as the Hilton - NW36th St (the street Comfort Inn is on) is not exactly in the best area of Miami either - walking especially after dark not particularly recommended!!! I think your family will thank you for booking the Hilton, albeit that the Comfort Inn may have less impact on the credit card!

Andy

[Edited 2005-01-10 00:42:57]

User currently offlineCX777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3937 times:

Here are couple of shots from the Terminal Hotel, top deck (swimming pool side)


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RC


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

Thanks Andy. Im not sure what im going to do now  Smile

Thanks RC for showing me what a great view the Miami Intl airport hotel had. Pity the flippin pool/deck is now closed !!!!





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User currently offlineUa935 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3916 times:

Hi Simon,

I was in Miami in November last.

I took all of my photos from the holes.

If you do a search under my name Simon Gregory you can see some examples.

When I get home I'll post directions on how to get there or drop me an e-mail if you want further info.

I stayed on South Beach and traveled to the airport from there so I can't comment on hotels at the airport.

I did stay at the MIA in 1994 and 1995, it was ok for reg's but looking back at my photos from the roofdeck now I am ashamed of my work! I also recall it costing about £150 a night.

Don't forget Ft Lauderdale Int'l is very friendly for photographers if you have got a car and only about 25 miles north.

Regards Simon.



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User currently offlineJat74l From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 618 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

Simon,
I went up to the "Top of the Port" at the Mia Hotel last Friday and the top deck area was closed for repairs. No estimate shown.

Regards

John



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25 BigOrange : The Comfort Inn is good if you are on your own, but if you have a wife and kids, it's not the greatest place or the greatest neighborhood! The pool is
26 Post contains images LHRSIMON : Thanks everyone Filler ........
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