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French Spotting Locations? Any Help Would Be Great  
User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Posted (9 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

This upcoming summer my family and I will be taking a trip to Nice and Paris where we have rented a villa for the first week and have an apartment for the second. From what my mother has said it will be in the town of Menton which is only a train ride away from NCE and when in Paris CDG and other airports are always in reach from Paris either by train/cab. I was wondering what kind of spotting takes place at these two airports (surrounding airports if you know of any) and if it's a harder area to spot or an easier one. Our flights are;

Friday, July 15, 2005 United Flight 900 Departing SFO at 2:30p.m. Arriving FRA at 10:30a.m. on Saturday, July 16, 2005. (Equip. 744 "upgraded" from a 777)

**1hour & 35min Layover**

Saturday, July 16, 2005, Lufthansa Flight 4134 Departing FRA at 12:05p.m. Arriving NCE at 1:30p.m. on Saturday, July 16, 2005. (Equip. A32S)

**End Trip**

Sunday July 31, 2005, Lufthansa Flight 4211 Departing CDG at 9:25a.m. Arriving FRA at 10:55a.m on Sunday, July 31, 2005. (Equip A32S)

**1hour & 55min Layover**

Sunday July 31, 2005, United Flight 941 Departing FRA at 12:45p.m. Arriving ORD at 3:00p.m. on Sunday, July 31, 2005. (Equip 777  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

**3hour Layover**

Sunday July 31, 2005, United Flight 863 Departing ORD at 6:00p.m. Arriving SFO at 8:35p.m, on Sunday, July 31, 2005. (Equip A320)

**End Trip**

From past experiences at FRA there will be no time for getting to the deck but that near the gates there are these huge glass windows near the taxiway. Though I will have to find a cheaper season to go to FRA for say a short vacation or quick trip.

However, I will be in Paris and Menton for a week at a time so I hope there is time for me to go to the airport. Well I know there will but I'm a lost sole over there and was just wondering what to look for, where to go, and what to expect. Any help would be great!

If anyone knows of any other locations that would be great to see please feel free to let me know. With flights from NCE to CDG as low as $15.99 it shouldn't be hard to get away thoughout the country for a day or two.

I shoot with a Canon Digital Rebel (300D) [Black Body]. I have the stock Canon EF 18-55mm lens, Canon EF 75-300mm f4-5.6 III USM Lens, and a Sigma 170-500mm f5-6.3 Aspherical RF APO Lens, with 2 1GB Compact Flash cards and a Canon Extra Battery Pack. (Just provided the list in case time, distance, or any other issues might become an issue with these locations)

Lastly, can anyone recommend a good lens that would be useful for cabin shooting. I get some access into a/c both at SFO and CCR and was wondering if my 18-55 would do the job or if there were better solutions out there that wouldn't cost me too much.

Thanks again for all your help and I hope this summer provides me with some great shooting!

Ua777222


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User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

Regarding spotting at Nice, there's "the beach" at the end of 04L / 04R ( which usually aircraft are landing on. )
I've been there twice, sry don't know the exact way to go there, but next to that beach is a big shopping mall ( called Cape 3000 ) where it's possible to park the car.
If you go the the outer edge of the beach shooting 04L arrivals and 04R line-up's is possible.
That's the beach:

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The main problem there is that NCE airport is only good for shooting from there from 5pm until sunset I'd say as the Mediterranean Sea is south of the airport and the beach north.
300mm is a close call for small arrivals ( like ATR's, ERJ's etc ) but with the 170-500 you'll have no problems!

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I don't know any other good spotting location at NCE.
As Monte Carlo is only about 30mins ( car ) away from NCE going there would be worth if you like helicopters. Then go to Monaco Heliport ( MCM. )
There are road signs from the main road guiding you to the heliport so finding it should not be a big problem.


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Don't know anything about the CDG area sorry.

Have a plesant stay there, beautiful area trust me  Big grin

Florian



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User currently offlineUa777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

Florian,

Now what is the name of the beach? Does that penisula allow for people to be out there? Secondly, are their boat rentals? If so I would think that would be better shooting...... Are there any on facility areas that will allow for shots? Or is the beach the only spot?

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question and for providing pictures to help me see where the heck I'm going.

Thanks again Florian,

Ua777222

Any idea's about the cabin shots?



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User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2206 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

The beach is next to the cap 3000 shopping mall in saint laurent du var.

http://www.cap3000.com/

Everybody in Nice knows about it, so it's a matter of asking for it. You aren't that close to the aircraft though. Also important to consider is that the tidal waves often wash the small peninsula away during the winter months. There's a nautical club next to the shopping mall, however I haven't enquired if you can lease a boat.


User currently offlineUa777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

Thanks for that reference.

Now I noticed that there are a lot of ramp shots and other on airport shots. Is NCE a good airport to approach (photographer wise) and try to get near the fence?

Now to another question. I'm looking for the perfect, not $1000, lens for cabin shooting that would out perform my 18-55mm which is would have to say is crap compared to others......

Thanks again for any lens help and thanks to Runway23 for the help!

Ua777222



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User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2206 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

From the beach it is necessary to have a lens upwards of 300mm, also the light isn't really that good during the winter and during the summer only from about 3:30pm onwards.

I would try and contact the airport directly, chances are they may grant you airside ops. Though French airports are very cautious for security procedures.


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

UA777222

I would not consider the 18-55 as crap. I use it myself, too and would not spend lotsa money on a 16-35L or sthg!
In general every wide angle lens can take decent cabin pics. I do myself have several of the 18-55 online.

Regarding your 2nd post.
There's no restriction where to go on that beach, as it's public like all the other normals beaches in the area, too! you can go out how far you want to. ( When I took line-up shots there ( @300mm ) I was often standing in the water up to my stomach with the camera in hands  Smile/happy/getting dizzy)

Dont know about boat rental or airport access sry!

Florian
Cheers

[Edited 2005-01-25 17:40:27]


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User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

Forget about "airside access" at NCE.

Even French airports have done a lot since 9-11.

In general NCE is a great airport, but there are not a lot of spots outside the perimeter. The one described is your best bet for landings RWY 4R/L.

And one big problem: you will be facing the sun pretty much all day long.

Don't expect "heavy traffic". As far as i know. DL, EK and BA are not the only carriers which are using wide bodies into NCE. Once in a while AF is bringing in their 744....

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You should be going during the time of the Cannes Film Festival.....
Lot's of Biz and Private Jets.

Btw....there is a lot more to do in Southern France than to hang around the airport. French food is excellent and French women are very pretty.......

Vasco G.


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