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Why Did The Screener Rejected My All Photos?  
User currently offlineBDLGUY From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 194 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

I got my 12 out of 12 photos were rejected! That's really surprised me!!!
I really don't understand why the screener doesn't like all my photos. :-( I thought all my photos were very sharper and nice quality. As you know that I worked very hard to editing all my photos.

John/BDL
___________________________________________________________

John A. Perrotta,

This mail is sent to you to confirm that some or all of the photos
you recently uploaded to Airliners.Net (http://www.airliners.net)
have been through the first screening and rejection process.



This is the status of your photos:


----------------------------------

The following photos were rejected:
(Please read more below)

- N331QS_BDL05Feb05.jpg (Untitled Cessna 560 Citation Ultra)
The image quality of these photos is low. This may be the result of several
perceived problems happening simultaneously, such as grain, blur, lighting,
contrast or color defects, which would lead us to believe that a fresh scan
(in the case of a non-digital image) or a complete rework starting with the
original camera file (in the case of a digitally taken image)would be necessary,
rather than a simple adjustment to the uploaded file.

It could be caused by the scanner you are using, the way you scanned your
photos, the (digital) camera, the light conditions when you shot the photos,
object out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination
thereof. Most of the time, the cause is either a bad scanner or that the
scanner wasn't used properly. If you think this might be the cause, please
read the documentation for your scanner and find the best DPI and color
settings. Generally a higher DPI and color setting will make a higher
quality image but only to a certain degree and it differs between different
brands of scanners. Try many different settings until you find the best
combination. If you are using an old or low quality scanner you might
consider investing in a new or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.
If you are using a digital camera, check camera settings, please be aware
also that ,unprocessed, digital camera output is generally not
of acceptable quality for airliners.net. If you are using a lower quality digital
camera with a resolution below 3 Megapixel you might consider investing in a
camera with higher resolution or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.

A frequent source of this problem is when the photograph was taken under
poor weather conditions without appropriate corrective measures (such as
exposure). Note that making acceptable photographs in poor weather
conditions or at night is quite difficult, and you should perhaps try to
achieve a good level of expertise and a few successful uploads of good
weather photographs before attempting much more difficult poor weather
or night photography.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in
having these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve
the quality of the digital version of your photos. You can find examples
of photos with a high quality scanning in out "Editor's Choice"
section linked to from the front page of Airliners.net.
The photos were blurry or unsharp.
This might be caused by motion blur from trying to track a fast moving
object or inadequate post-processing of the raw image. Look carefully
at your original picture/slide. If it is sharper than the uploaded file,
you might try using a photo manipulating program like Photo Shop or
Paint Shop Pro to sharpen the images, using the Unsharp Mask, Adaptive
Unsharp, or Sharpen tools. Most scanners and digital cameras will not provide a very sharp
image without such post-scan manipulation. Digital camera output without any form of post processing is
generally not of an acceptable standard for airliners.net without some form
of post-processing. If the original image is not sharper, this might be
caused by the camera, the light conditions when you shot the photos, object
out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination thereof. If
you have uploaded a shot that is towards the limits of your digicam's
resolution then try scaling the image to a smaller size to give an
impression of greater sharpness.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in having
these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve the
quality of the digital version of your photos.

The image looks overall too dark. That can be caused by incorrect scanner
(exposure, brightness, contrast, etc.) or camera (exposure, ISO speed,
etc.) settings, or more likely because you took the photo under difficult
light conditions (against the sun, overcast, rain, late afternoon, night,
etc.). Please avoid shooting under difficult light conditions/poor weather
if you are not used to it, or try to improve the image by enhancing it with
Photo/Paint Shop or similar manipulation tools. Remember not to over-enhance
the image loosing its original appearance.

----------------------------------

The following photos were rejected:
(Please read more below)

- N14DM_BDL05FEB05.jpg (Untitled Gates Learjet 24E)
- N847UA_BDL05Feb05.jpg (United Airlines Airbus A319-131)
- N8598B_BDL05Feb05.jpg (Northwest Airlink (Pinnacle Airlines) Canadair CL-600-2B19 Regional Jet CRJ-200)
The image quality of these photos is low. This may be the result of several
perceived problems happening simultaneously, such as grain, blur, lighting,
contrast or color defects, which would lead us to believe that a fresh scan
(in the case of a non-digital image) or a complete rework starting with the
original camera file (in the case of a digitally taken image)would be necessary,
rather than a simple adjustment to the uploaded file.

It could be caused by the scanner you are using, the way you scanned your
photos, the (digital) camera, the light conditions when you shot the photos,
object out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination
thereof. Most of the time, the cause is either a bad scanner or that the
scanner wasn't used properly. If you think this might be the cause, please
read the documentation for your scanner and find the best DPI and color
settings. Generally a higher DPI and color setting will make a higher
quality image but only to a certain degree and it differs between different
brands of scanners. Try many different settings until you find the best
combination. If you are using an old or low quality scanner you might
consider investing in a new or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.
If you are using a digital camera, check camera settings, please be aware
also that ,unprocessed, digital camera output is generally not
of acceptable quality for airliners.net. If you are using a lower quality digital
camera with a resolution below 3 Megapixel you might consider investing in a
camera with higher resolution or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.

A frequent source of this problem is when the photograph was taken under
poor weather conditions without appropriate corrective measures (such as
exposure). Note that making acceptable photographs in poor weather
conditions or at night is quite difficult, and you should perhaps try to
achieve a good level of expertise and a few successful uploads of good
weather photographs before attempting much more difficult poor weather
or night photography.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in
having these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve
the quality of the digital version of your photos. You can find examples
of photos with a high quality scanning in out "Editor's Choice"
section linked to from the front page of Airliners.net.

The photos were soft. This doesnt mean they are blurry (like motion
blur). It means that they could need this extra kick of sharpness.
This target can be reached by using the sharpen function of your
Photoediting program. For example in Photoshop try the Adaptive Unsharp
mask. But be careful not to oversharpen your pictures. Oversharpening can be
identified by jaggies. This is when a line that should have straight borders
has borders that look like stairs. Most scanners will not provide a very
sharp image without such post-scan manipulation. Raw digital camera output
is generally not of an acceptable standard for airliners.net without some
form of post-processing.
If you think you have been able to improve the Sharpness of the photos,
please upload them again. Note that we are still very interested in having
these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve the
sharpness of the digital version of your photos.

----------------------------------

The following photos were rejected:
(Please read more below)

- N855MJ_BDLFeb0505.jpg (US Airways Express Embraer ERJ-145)
- N377NW_BDL05Feb05.jpg (Northwest Airlines Airbus A320-212)
- N843HK_BDL05Feb05.jpg (United Express (Trans States Airlines) Embraer ERJ-145)
- N47888_BDL05Feb05.jpg (Centurion Air Cargo McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30(F))
The image quality of these photos is low. This may be the result of several
perceived problems happening simultaneously, such as grain, blur, lighting,
contrast or color defects, which would lead us to believe that a fresh scan
(in the case of a non-digital image) or a complete rework starting with the
original camera file (in the case of a digitally taken image)would be necessary,
rather than a simple adjustment to the uploaded file.

It could be caused by the scanner you are using, the way you scanned your
photos, the (digital) camera, the light conditions when you shot the photos,
object out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination
thereof. Most of the time, the cause is either a bad scanner or that the
scanner wasn't used properly. If you think this might be the cause, please
read the documentation for your scanner and find the best DPI and color
settings. Generally a higher DPI and color setting will make a higher
quality image but only to a certain degree and it differs between different
brands of scanners. Try many different settings until you find the best
combination. If you are using an old or low quality scanner you might
consider investing in a new or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.
If you are using a digital camera, check camera settings, please be aware
also that ,unprocessed, digital camera output is generally not
of acceptable quality for airliners.net. If you are using a lower quality digital
camera with a resolution below 3 Megapixel you might consider investing in a
camera with higher resolution or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.

A frequent source of this problem is when the photograph was taken under
poor weather conditions without appropriate corrective measures (such as
exposure). Note that making acceptable photographs in poor weather
conditions or at night is quite difficult, and you should perhaps try to
achieve a good level of expertise and a few successful uploads of good
weather photographs before attempting much more difficult poor weather
or night photography.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in
having these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve
the quality of the digital version of your photos. You can find examples
of photos with a high quality scanning in out "Editor's Choice"
section linked to from the front page of Airliners.net.

----------------------------------

The following photos were rejected:
(Please read more below)

- N67171_BDL05Feb05.jpg (Song (Delta Air Lines) Boeing 757-232)
- N3763D_BDL05Feb05.jpg (Delta Air Lines Boeing 737-832)
The image quality of these photos is low. This may be the result of several
perceived problems happening simultaneously, such as grain, blur, lighting,
contrast or color defects, which would lead us to believe that a fresh scan
(in the case of a non-digital image) or a complete rework starting with the
original camera file (in the case of a digitally taken image)would be necessary,
rather than a simple adjustment to the uploaded file.

It could be caused by the scanner you are using, the way you scanned your
photos, the (digital) camera, the light conditions when you shot the photos,
object out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination
thereof. Most of the time, the cause is either a bad scanner or that the
scanner wasn't used properly. If you think this might be the cause, please
read the documentation for your scanner and find the best DPI and color
settings. Generally a higher DPI and color setting will make a higher
quality image but only to a certain degree and it differs between different
brands of scanners. Try many different settings until you find the best
combination. If you are using an old or low quality scanner you might
consider investing in a new or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.
If you are using a digital camera, check camera settings, please be aware
also that ,unprocessed, digital camera output is generally not
of acceptable quality for airliners.net. If you are using a lower quality digital
camera with a resolution below 3 Megapixel you might consider investing in a
camera with higher resolution or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.

A frequent source of this problem is when the photograph was taken under
poor weather conditions without appropriate corrective measures (such as
exposure). Note that making acceptable photographs in poor weather
conditions or at night is quite difficult, and you should perhaps try to
achieve a good level of expertise and a few successful uploads of good
weather photographs before attempting much more difficult poor weather
or night photography.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in
having these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve
the quality of the digital version of your photos. You can find examples
of photos with a high quality scanning in out "Editor's Choice"
section linked to from the front page of Airliners.net.

The image looks overall too dark. That can be caused by incorrect scanner
(exposure, brightness, contrast, etc.) or camera (exposure, ISO speed,
etc.) settings, or more likely because you took the photo under difficult
light conditions (against the sun, overcast, rain, late afternoon, night,
etc.). Please avoid shooting under difficult light conditions/poor weather
if you are not used to it, or try to improve the image by enhancing it with
Photo/Paint Shop or similar manipulation tools. Remember not to over-enhance
the image loosing its original appearance.

----------------------------------

The following photos were rejected:
(Please read more below)

- N708BR_BDL05Feb05.jpg (Independence Air Canadair CL-600-2B19 Regional Jet CRJ-200)
The image quality of these photos is low. This may be the result of several
perceived problems happening simultaneously, such as grain, blur, lighting,
contrast or color defects, which would lead us to believe that a fresh scan
(in the case of a non-digital image) or a complete rework starting with the
original camera file (in the case of a digitally taken image)would be necessary,
rather than a simple adjustment to the uploaded file.

It could be caused by the scanner you are using, the way you scanned your
photos, the (digital) camera, the light conditions when you shot the photos,
object out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination
thereof. Most of the time, the cause is either a bad scanner or that the
scanner wasn't used properly. If you think this might be the cause, please
read the documentation for your scanner and find the best DPI and color
settings. Generally a higher DPI and color setting will make a higher
quality image but only to a certain degree and it differs between different
brands of scanners. Try many different settings until you find the best
combination. If you are using an old or low quality scanner you might
consider investing in a new or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.
If you are using a digital camera, check camera settings, please be aware
also that ,unprocessed, digital camera output is generally not
of acceptable quality for airliners.net. If you are using a lower quality digital
camera with a resolution below 3 Megapixel you might consider investing in a
camera with higher resolution or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.

A frequent source of this problem is when the photograph was taken under
poor weather conditions without appropriate corrective measures (such as
exposure). Note that making acceptable photographs in poor weather
conditions or at night is quite difficult, and you should perhaps try to
achieve a good level of expertise and a few successful uploads of good
weather photographs before attempting much more difficult poor weather
or night photography.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in
having these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve
the quality of the digital version of your photos. You can find examples
of photos with a high quality scanning in out "Editor's Choice"
section linked to from the front page of Airliners.net.
The photos were blurry or unsharp.
This might be caused by motion blur from trying to track a fast moving
object or inadequate post-processing of the raw image. Look carefully
at your original picture/slide. If it is sharper than the uploaded file,
you might try using a photo manipulating program like Photo Shop or
Paint Shop Pro to sharpen the images, using the Unsharp Mask, Adaptive
Unsharp, or Sharpen tools. Most scanners and digital cameras will not provide a very sharp
image without such post-scan manipulation. Digital camera output without any form of post processing is
generally not of an acceptable standard for airliners.net without some form
of post-processing. If the original image is not sharper, this might be
caused by the camera, the light conditions when you shot the photos, object
out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination thereof. If
you have uploaded a shot that is towards the limits of your digicam's
resolution then try scaling the image to a smaller size to give an
impression of greater sharpness.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in having
these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve the
quality of the digital version of your photos.

----------------------------------

The following photos were rejected:
(Please read more below)

- N757LV_BDL05Feb05.jpg (Southwest Airlines Boeing 737-7H4)
The image quality of these photos is low. This may be the result of several
perceived problems happening simultaneously, such as grain, blur, lighting,
contrast or color defects, which would lead us to believe that a fresh scan
(in the case of a non-digital image) or a complete rework starting with the
original camera file (in the case of a digitally taken image)would be necessary,
rather than a simple adjustment to the uploaded file.

It could be caused by the scanner you are using, the way you scanned your
photos, the (digital) camera, the light conditions when you shot the photos,
object out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination
thereof. Most of the time, the cause is either a bad scanner or that the
scanner wasn't used properly. If you think this might be the cause, please
read the documentation for your scanner and find the best DPI and color
settings. Generally a higher DPI and color setting will make a higher
quality image but only to a certain degree and it differs between different
brands of scanners. Try many different settings until you find the best
combination. If you are using an old or low quality scanner you might
consider investing in a new or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.
If you are using a digital camera, check camera settings, please be aware
also that ,unprocessed, digital camera output is generally not
of acceptable quality for airliners.net. If you are using a lower quality digital
camera with a resolution below 3 Megapixel you might consider investing in a
camera with higher resolution or borrow one from your friend/workplace/school.

A frequent source of this problem is when the photograph was taken under
poor weather conditions without appropriate corrective measures (such as
exposure). Note that making acceptable photographs in poor weather
conditions or at night is quite difficult, and you should perhaps try to
achieve a good level of expertise and a few successful uploads of good
weather photographs before attempting much more difficult poor weather
or night photography.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in
having these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve
the quality of the digital version of your photos. You can find examples
of photos with a high quality scanning in out "Editor's Choice"
section linked to from the front page of Airliners.net.

The photos were soft. This doesnt mean they are blurry (like motion
blur). It means that they could need this extra kick of sharpness.
This target can be reached by using the sharpen function of your
Photoediting program. For example in Photoshop try the Adaptive Unsharp
mask. But be careful not to oversharpen your pictures. Oversharpening can be
identified by jaggies. This is when a line that should have straight borders
has borders that look like stairs. Most scanners will not provide a very
sharp image without such post-scan manipulation. Raw digital camera output
is generally not of an acceptable standard for airliners.net without some
form of post-processing.
If you think you have been able to improve the Sharpness of the photos,
please upload them again. Note that we are still very interested in having
these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve the
sharpness of the digital version of your photos.

The image looks overall too dark. That can be caused by incorrect scanner
(exposure, brightness, contrast, etc.) or camera (exposure, ISO speed,
etc.) settings, or more likely because you took the photo under difficult
light conditions (against the sun, overcast, rain, late afternoon, night,
etc.). Please avoid shooting under difficult light conditions/poor weather
if you are not used to it, or try to improve the image by enhancing it with
Photo/Paint Shop or similar manipulation tools. Remember not to over-enhance
the image loosing its original appearance.
----------------------------------

A total of 12 photos processed.

Don't worry, everyone has their photos rejected from time
to time. Our standards are very high. It is and should be
difficult to get photos accepted.

With experience and increasingly optimised settings for camera,
scanner and photo editor, your acceptance ratio will increase.

APPEAL REJECTIONS
It is now possible to appeal to Johan Lundgren the Editor-in-Chief
of Airliners.net if you believe your photos were incorrectly rejected.
To appeal one or more of the rejections in this email, please go to:
LINK REMOVED BY MODERATORS - NEVER POST YOUR APPEAL LINK!

If you have any questions regarding this confirmation message,
please read the Upload-FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) that
you can find at
http://www.airliners.net/faq/
It contains detailed answers to virtually all questions
photographers have asked us in the past.

Don't forget to visit our Aviation Photography forum, where
you can discuss photo equipment and technics with other
photographers as well as ask them for constructive critique
on your photos. Check it out at
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/

If you have ideas on how we can improve our service, do not
hesitate to contact us. Kindly refrain however from sending us
emails on the subject "Why won't you accept my photos, they
are better than others" and similar. Please post such issues
in the Aviation Photography forum. We can better help you there
and you'll get constructive criticism from other photographers
as well.


Sincerely,

The Airliners.net Photo Screening Crew
screeners@airliners.net
http://www.airliners.net/


John A. Perrotta (KBDL/BDL) - Canon 300D/400D & EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
7 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5858 times:

John

We get those e-mails as well so there is no need to post the entire e-mail in the thread, just link the rejects and the reasons and lets all have a look and help you on this. There may be a genuine reason and we might see something that you haven't. Just trying to help!

Fergul  Big thumbs up



Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2239 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

Why did the monkey cross the road?

I opened three of your shots. They were all taken at the same spot, so I guess the other 9 are the same type. They all look dark, back lit, blurry andr soft... Apart from the resizing, did you edit them at all?  Confused
And next time you go spotting, try to come at another time of the day. The light in your photo's is horrible...

Cheers,
Eduard


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5823 times:

Just keep trying. We have all been there. Many many times. When i first started i had 25 out of 25 rejected once. I was gutted but it just comes with the territory !!!

As Eduard stated never take back lit photo's unless your after some sort of special effect !!

Simon C



Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5786 times:

You have already been told why they did not make it in the above replies, but please do not upload that many images!

If you know your rejection rate is high only upload 1 to 3 images and wait for them to get screened, then if you get photos accepted more often you can upload more.

This is not a rule, but would be very kind of you to keep the upload Q and the time screening takes down!

Thanks
Florian



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5749 times:

John

From the tone of your post I thought you were a complete novice, then I see you have a fair few pictures in the database already, so you should know enough by now to know what is acceptable here on Anet. Posting links might get you more assistance in future.

As an aside, for us "non DSLR" types, it is refreshing to see that a 300D is no guarantee of sucess Big grin



User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5718 times:

Andrew!

Its not the camera but the photographer that makes good shots. Although it does help to have good equipment,  Big thumbs up
Camera can only do so much!

Fergul Big grin

Edit: I mentioned this in another thread but have a look at Anthony Noble's work, there is some great shots with a manual camera, so Mick says! No auto gadget camera there! Big grin



[Edited 2005-02-11 14:01:39]


Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
User currently offlineDraigonair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5604 times:

they are nice shots but they indeed look dark. Make them more light with adobe photoshop (or some other editing tool) and maybe that will do the trick!
and some sharpening (but not too much)

cheers

Nick



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