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How Come This Got On And This Didnt?  
User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Hey,

i was just wondering, these got rejected:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/kalittatakEHAM.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/Kalitta742tak.jpg

but this one (different photographer did get on)


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Photo © Eduard Brantjes



how come? because especially the second pic of mine is almost same quality i think!

please share your views!

thanks!!!

cheers

Nick  Smile


cheers
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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4360 times:

'cause your photos aren't as good.  Big grin

User currently offlineCpn360 From Belgium, joined Mar 2004, 200 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4337 times:

Nick,

I think you are thinking wrong...

If you don't see the difference between your pictures and the "other" one, I advice you:

a) You need (new) glasses.
b) It's time to go to bed and review everything tomorrow with a cleared mind.

Serge



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

As best as I can see the second pic is a little blurry compared to the one that has been accepted to the database. The person who started this thread has asked for some advice. How about giving him some reasons why his pics got rejected and how to improve them instead of insulting him?

User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

NIKV69 thanks for saying that because things like 'because your photos aren't as good' isn't helping this thread at all and is just pointless to post that sort of stuff...just Wanted to know how I might improve the shot...when ever I post something like this I always get insulted by 'cant you see it your self' etc...creates a very nice atmosphere  Sad
oh well...

btw one thing....mine is on the 'badquality side' but then how did this get on (no insult to photographer)


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Photo © Marcel de Jong



cheers!

Nick



cheers
User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4297 times:

Nick, I think that shot just got in because it is a rarer shot.
Regards



YES URLS in signature!!!
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

Nick, sorry to say this, but the first shot is blurry, and you tried to compensate that by sharpening too much. There are halo's all over the place. The second one is just out of focus, the plane is soft and a little too far away. Ed's shot is just clearer, sharper, and it has a very spectacular scene.

btw, it is not considered to be very nice on these forums to pick out shots from photographers and calling them bad quality or similar. If they are in, they are in and they belong in. It is as simple as that. And even though you say you mean no offense, it is offensive. It sucks to hear that as a photographer.



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4286 times:

No problem Nick (I'm Nick also)

Just found that a lilttle childish, your asking for some simple advice and you get that. I am still learning here. You second pic looked good though it seemed a lilttle blurry to me.

Serge,

What were exactly the differences there? You answers not only help him but all of us here that upload pics here.


User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

yeh thats whats happening to me all the time lately...im always so saddend when i see my best shots get off...

here for example:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...big/KL772needneatimagefiltered.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ctions/big/KL772tak2ndfiltered.jpg
(btw ignore name of the image)

oh well...i guess i will never get these kind of shots on not my luck to get them good quality  Sad



cheers
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4266 times:

Quoting DRAIGONAIR (reply 0):
because especially the second pic of mine is almost same quality i think!

please share your views!



Quoting DRAIGONAIR (reply 4):
things like 'because your photos aren't as good' isn't helping this thread at all and is just pointless to post that sort of stuff...just Wanted to know how I might improve the shot



You asked for my views, I disagreed with you.


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (reply 7):
You second pic looked good though it seemed a lilttle blurry to me.

Serge,

What were exactly the differences there? You answers not only help him but all of us here that upload pics here.


You answered your own question. Nicks pics are blurry and/or out of focus, Eduard's picture is sharp.



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineN317AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Nick (Dragonair),

I think I read one of your other posts asking for help and you got slammed in the process of getting answers. It may be a language thing but be careful how you ask. Instead of asking; Why did this get on and mine didn't?, ask; Could you help me figure out why this got rejected? If you slam another photographer while asking why your shot didn't make it, you probably won't like the response you get. If you don't think you slammed Eduard, any time you ask, why this and not mine, you are slamming the other person.
Leave the other peoples shots out of your questions and just worry about you, and you'll get along fine with almost everyone here.

Bill


User currently offlineCpn360 From Belgium, joined Mar 2004, 200 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4225 times:

NIKV69,

I'm always willing to help other photographers and quite a few people can affirm this.

Your questions are already been answered by Wietse.

If you do research in this forum and look after some topics started by Nick,
you will find out that the manner of asking "advice" are always in the same irritating line.

I can't be constructive (anymore) on this kind of attitudes.

Serge



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User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

Draigonair, you have good pics, but the quality is simply terrible. The two you posted later are EXTREMELY blurry and would never make it.

User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4131 times:

dragonair,

You whine a lot on here. I don't recall many posts of yours that didn't have you complaining about your photos. Not asking for advice, but complaining. Don't lecture us about how we should construct our responses to you when your approach is way off from the start. How are we supposed to respond productively when you have done little other than point out the negative aspects of other people's photos?

It's not a "you took those so take mine" game here. Worry about your own photos and no one else's. Uploading to Airliners.net is a priviledge, not a right. Understand that.

-Phil



Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineBIGDEN From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

Hey!
Whether whining is offensive or not I do not think it is in good taste for screeners to be abusive.
If you are disgusted or offended by whining then just don't reply to the questions, let some other screener do it who may have more patience.
BIGDEN



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

Serge,

I try to stay clear of the "why did my pic not get accepted" threads SO I didn't know the extent of the situation. Was just looking for info on how to improve my pics.

I try to stay clear of the comparisons to other photographers, I know it is rude and frowned upon. Was just curious to the reaction. I understand.


User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

Draigonair

I’ll be honest, I’m a little surprised at you posting someone else’s photo trying to justify your own for not being accepted. I’m a production manager and when I reprimand someone for doing something wrong the first thing they do is complain about someone else that has done or doing the same. I’ll say this, and please don’t take offence but take it in a constructive way. Fight your own battle!
We are all here to help in every way possible, but when you start pluging other photographers work as to why it was accepted and yours not, it doesn’t look good on you.
They had nothing to do with the photo being accepted, that was a screeners decision. If you have a problem with that then take it up with the screeners.

As for the rejection of tour photos, Wietse has answered that.

Take care

Fergul  Smile

PS It would be good idea to write an apology to Eduard for using his photo. Just my thoughts.



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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4026 times:
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Nick you have been here for a long time and should know very well that the way you construct these posts does not belong on this forum.

You have also been here long enough that you should know the photos that got rejected are indeed badquality and won't make it. You act like you are being the only one who gets his photos rejected while the are good quality (in your eyes). Why don't you actually listen for a change instead of taking on the role of the victim and you'll see everyone here agrees with the rejections.

Next time don't drag other peoples photo into your rejection threads, that is a plain insult!

Tim



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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

Hmm... I almost didn't even open this thread, but somehow I did and whaddayouknow: I'm in it!  Smile
What can I say... To be completely honest: I don't really care if you plugged my photo. My audience will become a bit bigger, so I don't mind. The reason why you plugged it is a bit off, obviously not well considered.

- To question what gets into the database and what doesn't... That's up to the screeners. If you disagree, appeal... If you want to question the screeners work: ask them, and don't do it here.

- If you want to know how to increase the quality of your shot, come here and ask. The comparison you can do yourself, no need to plug my shot for that...

No need for an apology... I know where/who it's coming from and to be honest, I have bigger things to worry about...

Eduard


User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

Hey,

okee guys im sorry...sometimes im just so saddened that my pics get rejected i get little frustrated! but yes its wrong to post here and comparing it to other peoples pictures....so i wont do that anymore then...

also it was said above i only post these kind of things and whine...wel that's a little unfair as I do reply to threads to try to help people so please don't say that.

Indeed I have been here along time, started uploading pics when I was probably 13 here and yes i have had my share of rejections but you must understand that when you see a pic almost the same as yours and it did get on you start to question...but now I do admit when I really look closely to them that mine is not as good...maybe I need practice I don't know because I do have the good equipment, or maybe its just because the weather is bad and I was too far away from the runway (did use crop in those photos)...off course I do get pics on and that makes me very happy...

so sorry if I did offend anyone its not that I hate those pics it was just my frustration so sorry I did that...

Have a good day then......

Nick



cheers
User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3963 times:

Quoting DRAIGONAIR (reply 20):
...maybe I need practice I don't know because I do have the good equipment


Read my signature... That's the way it is!

Florian



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

haha yeh i know that  Smile but i think i was asking too mutch of the camera...becuase those pics of the runway were taken during poor weather and the origional the plane is rather far away.....so i had to crop alot and thats why i think its so bad! gotta get closer Big grin

cheers

Nick



cheers
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