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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4503 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4624 times:

Hi guys,


It's been years since I've attempted uploading to A.net because what I'd taken just didn't stand any chance of making it.

But there's a few photos I took last year that I think might have a chance. I haven't gotten any in the database since 1999 so I'm really hoping that at least a couple of these actually make it into the DB. I'd be thrilled to get one or two in, and if I get more than that I'll probably faint!  Wink


But, I'd like your thoughts on them. There's a few here that I just have a feeling won't get in, but a few that I'm really hoping for. The first of these should go into screening tomorrow or the day after, not sure. Would you be willing to share your thoughts on them and tell me what you think might be improved?


Thanks, I appreciate it as I'm really wanting to get some good shots in the DB. My 1999 shots are, to say the least, pathetic!  Wink



Here's the batch I uploaded on the 6th:


1st pic:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/NWA_A320_tail_SLC_Jul_29_04.jpg

This one I really like. But I'm afraid they'll think I played with the image too much. Actually, there has been no editing to this photo at all, except the title of the jpg. My motive was a good tail shot of the new colours, and it was difficult finding a good position and a clean window. This was the best I could come up with.


2nd:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...g/ready/AA_MD-80_SLC_Jul_29_04.jpg

This one I'm also very proud of, with one exception. I can see some window reflections up in the upper right corner of the image, and I'm pretty sure this photo would get turned down because of that. But I don't know how I can get rid of those reflections. SLC is terrible for window reflections, and I just decided to do the best I could to get a good shot otherwise. I like the colours on the plane, the reflections are nice and on my monitor everything looks sharp and clean. This photo also has no editing to it, came straight from the camera.

Motive: A good shot of AA MD-80 at the gate...and to re-do the terrible photo that got online in 1999 when the standards were low, seen here:


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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Brandon Williams



I'm afraid those reflections will prevent an otherwise good shot from getting on. Do they ever make exceptions with stuff like that...like...the rest of the photo is really good and so they let a reflection slide?

Didn't think so.  Sad


3rd:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/Delta_271_33.jpg

One of the best shots I've ever taken, in my eyes. This is one of them that I'm really hoping gets in. The weather and the setting sun made a pastel sky. This one's like a piece of art. There's something on the wing though, I can't tell whether that's sunlight or something reflecting on the airplane window. Whatever it is I hope it's not rejection-worthy.


4th:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/Delta_271_30.jpg


This one from the same flight as the 3rd photo. A bit darker now, but I think I like this one a little better than photo 3. It also has another airliner in the image. I don't see much wrong with it...the sky below is hazy but it was that way to the eye too. What do you think?


I have several more photos similar to photo 3 and 4...and if these two get on then I'll try the rest of them.


5th:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/HP_732_SLC_Jul_29_04.jpg

This one I expect will be rejected...because of the way the sunlight in the sky turned out. There was construction at Concourse A that forced a bunch of airlines to move to Concourse B, and this was my only chance to photograph the scene, that morning.

I tried editing the photograph but nothing really fixed that white look in the sky. I think the planes turned out well though some in the background are a little soft. Do you think that because of the unique situation that it will get in?



That's the end of the first batch. Here's the second batch of 8 photos from the 7th.


Photo 6:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/Morn_SLC_2.JPG

I expect a rejection on this one. for the same reason as Photo 5. Motive was to show a busy concourse in the morning at SLC. Hope it wasn't a "bad" motive. I like the shot but I'm not expecting it to be accepted. But, what do you think?


Photo 7:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/N902DA_int_July_28_04.JPG

Delta MD-90 interior. It's a good photo but I'm afraid it'll get badpeople because of the employee at the back of the plane. Or is that allowed? I was being stared at so i had to get the photo done people or not.


Photo 8:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...g/ready/WN733_int_Aug11_04_LAS.jpg

I actually hope this one gets in. the only problem I see is that the flash messed with the exit sign. I tried editing but it did no good, so i left it as it was.


Photo 9:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/MCO_overview_aug_10_sn7008.JPG

Overview of MCO. Window was kind of dirty and I think that affected the shot. I tried to clean the window but it was that annoying plastic crap that peels on the window so i couldn't fix it. did the best i could, but...what do you think.


Photo 10:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/SFO1.JPG

I don't think this one will be accepted. Took a photo inside SFO of the planes hanging from the ceiling.


Photo 11:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/SFO2.JPG

Inside of SFO. Expecting a badpeople.


Photo 12:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/SFO3.JPG

The most likely of the SFO shots to get in. Still don't have high hopes for it.


Finally, Photo 13:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b..._CRJ_interior_Jul_23_04_sn7749.JPG

I really want this one in the database. I think it's a fantastic shot. But there are two people who stayed on the plane. Now, I have seen photos added to the DB recently that had people in the cabin..so maybe it won't get rejected for that. At least I hope. What do you think? People are very hard to remove from cabin photos without some impatient stares from employees waiting for you to deplane!



Thoughts, comments, advice, is all appreciated. I expect only 1 or 2 of these will get in, but more likely 0, but I pray for more. Please don't bash me or my photos...I've been taking pics for a while but I could only afford a 4megapix and as far as post-processing, I'm no expert. I'm really trying. I use Paint Shop Pro, not photoshop, don't know how to use photoshop. But help and advice is appreciated. I havent even attempted to upload photos for a long time, so it's almost new to me right now.

Thanks guys I appreciate it.

[Edited 2005-03-10 05:52:48]

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User currently offlineShep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

Photo 13 is great - a bit big - but should make the cut...  thumbsup 

User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4503 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

Edited to fix broken links!

User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4578 times:

No 2: badmotiv because of the reflections
no 3: dirty in upper right corner

Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
I have several more photos similar to photo 3 and 4...and if these two get on then I'll try the rest of them.

double  Wow!

No 5, 6: you are right. motiv and centered
No 10: quality

These are only the most obvious flaws because my crappy laptop screen at work is not good for any screening.

And as Shep said "smaller would be better".



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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4503 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4539 times:

How do I remove a dirt spot?

I could try pixel-by-pixel but I imagine that won't look good either. any advice?


Did you mean my other photos similar to 3 and 4 would be rejected for being doubles? to clarify, they all look different, they are all sunset shots, but each has its own unique colours and look. I avoided shooting the same exact thing over and over, just took additional shots when the view outside changed enough to warrant another photo.



Quick question: If the idea is to show a busy concourse, not just one plane...why is that a badmotiv? Not complaining, just asking why. the motive was to show the busy morning concourse, not one specific plane. For the other the motive was showing airlines forced to move because of construction, combined with a really nice sunrise. But my camera kind of blew out the sky on that one.


How do I remove the grain from the SFO shots without bluring or softening? I tried in PSP to do edge preserving smooth and texture preserving smooth, which removed the grain, but softened the image a bit too much for a.net standards. Advice is very helpful and I appreciate your replies so far!!


User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

Hello there  wave 

Ok I am no expert but I am going to give me opinions.

First off , why are you uploading large? 1280 isnt too huge but if you want to try and get some photos accepted to start off , use 1024xXXX. You save some quality at this size.

Photo 1: Nothing wrong with this pic , unless a screener feels its badmotiv due to the space left after the wing.

Photo 2: I like it , but as said dustspot. Try clone it out on PS.

Photo 3: Its nice. But there are some spots at the top-right and top left corners from the window. I suggest crop closer to the top of the wing and crop off the free air on the left hand side.

Photo 4: Wing is very dark. This pic will most likely get baddark and if the other is accepted , baddouble.

Photo 5: Badmotiv/Baddark/Badsoft. No chance with this one I am afraid.

Photo 6: Badmotiv/Baddark. Objects are blocking the aircraft (airbridge)

Photo 7: I'd expect that to get in only if there arent many MD-90 enterior shots in the db  Wink

Photo 8: Its crooked. Rotate and simply crop off the exit sign.

Photo 9: I don't know. These pics don't do it for me. Might constitute badmotiv. Not enough of the airport to be seen.

Photo 10: No chance I think.

Photo 11: Don't think so. Probably another badmotiv/badsoft. You're not really picturing anything important in the terminal except for shops...

Photo 12: Same as last two.

Photo 13: Nice pic. You don't have to worry about the people in the seats. I just feel that the extreme top of the photo is soft. I feel you should resize this to 1024 and upload.

Good luck and I hope this helps.

-SA006



Proudly South African
User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4503 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4434 times:



Quoting SA006 (Reply 5):
Photo 3: Its nice. But there are some spots at the top-right and top left corners from the window. I suggest crop closer to the top of the wing and crop off the free air on the left hand side.

Photo 4: Wing is very dark. This pic will most likely get baddark and if the other is accepted , baddouble.

I don't know, I don't think it would be rejected for baddouble. The only thing similar between the two images is that they are taken from the same seat on the same flight. Elsewise the view outside is entirely different in these two.

As for the dark wing, it looked that way in real life as the sun was going down. I'm afraid making it lighter would make it look unnatural...


For fixing dustspots: Are there any other tools besides PS that I can use to fix it? I don't know a thing about how to use photoshop I'm afraid. I use paint shop pro.


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4430 times:

Pardon me but;

Quoting Aloha717200 (Thread starter):
Photo 10:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/SFO1.JPG

I don't think this one will be accepted. Took a photo inside SFO of the planes hanging from the ceiling.


Photo 11:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/SFO2.JPG

Inside of SFO. Expecting a badpeople.

Why the hell would you upload them if you know they won't make it?



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4503 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4424 times:

I took a chance to see if they would. I usually don't have high hopes for my photos when I put them on, because I know how high the standards are at a.net. But you never know.

I'd rather take the chance that they might get on, than never try at all. Besides if they get rejected I can look at the advice on how to improve them and try again.


But do you have to be so harsh in your response? Not sure why the aggravated tone is necessary.



Anyway, I just got a few emails, and all but one of the first batch were rejected in the first screening process. The NWA plane was rejected for badinfo. Not sure how that happened but I'm gonna look into it. The one that passed first screening is Delta_271_30, the one with the dark wing and blue sky. I'd be thrilled if it makes it.

33 was rejected for baddouble. I stand corrected, but I'm going to try cleaning the image up and then re-upload with an appeal in the comment since the scene is so different outside from pic 30.


But at this point I'll be thrilled to get even one on a.net. I'm not greedy, I'd just like to get some of my work online. Hope the pic passes phase 2!


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4503 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

Got a badmotiv on Photo 30, it said it was of low aesthetic quality. I don't agree with that, my motive was capturing the beauty of sunset from the air.


But rather than appeal I'm going to try to increase the quality of the image and try again. It could look better than it does, too much grain.

[Edited 2005-03-11 04:15:11]

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4382 times:

Aloha,

I hate to break it to you but just b/c you like it doesn't mean the screeners will. I have taken many shots that I like a lot but have gotten rejected for the quality due to the light. There was a shot of a 172 that had this amazing glare @ sundown and b/c of the light I got Baddark. I highly suggest not reuploading due to the fact that the sun is a deal that is hard to over come. And again, "I don't agree with that, my motive was ccapturing the beauty of the sunset from the air". Well it's not Sunsets.net so you are going to have a hard time getting it up if that's all you're after. You really can't change the sites motives and if they feel it doesn't make the cut don't sweat it. I have been told before that you are not setting a scene for someone to look at you are taking shots of aircraft for people to look at. Just add it to your personal collection with the satisfaction that you took the shot. I wish you the best of luck in your future with a.net and your photos. I suggest you not upload if you don't feel its going to make it.

Thanks,

Matt



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