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User currently offlineMalandan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 380 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1373 times:

This photo has just been rejected for badgrainy.


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No complaints with that, but would somebody please advise me as to the best and most effective way to resolve the problem.
I only have Paintshop Pro and Photoshop Elements 2 and my attempts at a correction seem only to make the picture look artificial.
I hope to have it accepted as its unusual to have a ski equipped plane in this neck of the woods!
Any help appreciated.

Malcolm.


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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1347 times:

Malcolm

I have a word document that I have written for a few friends, its step by step guide on processing your photos through PS Elements 2.0 & 3.0
Send me an e-mail and I will forward it onto you.

Fergul Big grin



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5678 posts, RR: 45
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1264 times:
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Malcolm,

I have been using Fergul's processing guide for a few days now and it is worth a using.
Having said that, coming from a place where almost half the commercial traffic is Red... it is not easy!!

Keep trying tho

Chris



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User currently offlineAviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

I am afraid "bad grainy" is not the only problem Malcolm.
Check the saturation as well, it is over done.

Good luck,
Willem



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User currently offlineMalandan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

Whilst I remain very grateful to Fergul for his admirable processing guide, and for Willen's acceptable criticism of the saturation level (which I have corrected) nobody has offered an answer to my specific problem of reducing grain, which although of little interest I suspect to the DLSR brigade, can be a daunting problem to those like myself who seek to improve older film images.
The only solution I have found is to use
Filter - Noise - Median
but the even at the lowest choice of 1 pixel radius, there is a tendency toward a "flat" look.
Has anyone any other suggestions please?

Malcolm.



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1664 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
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Malcolm

A hint of smart blur might do the trick. It is in Filters.
Try a radius of 3 and a threshold of 3.5, quality high after sharpening.
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

Malcolm

Once there is bad grain on the original photo, its not easy to get rid of. As Mick has suggested you can use smart blur. There is also another program but I stress that it must be used carefully as it can destroy a photo if used badly. That is Neat Image. I, thankfully don't use this program anymore, well very seldom, but its is good if you know hoe to adjust the right levels.

If you want to, Malcolm send me the original photo, out of the camera, and I'll have a go for you and see what I can come up with.

Take care and good luck

Fergul Big grin



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User currently offlineLjungdahl From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 907 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

Maybe some useful tips for the grain etc:

Scanning From Slides (by ZKEOJ Mar 12 2005 in Aviation Photography)

reply 4 & 10

 Smile
/Johan


User currently offlineMalandan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1169 times:

Well I'm blurred !!!!!!!!!
Thanks to each of you who have replied.
I used your recommended settings, Mick, and I think it may have done the trick. Of course, proof of the pudding lies with the screeners, so fingers crossed!
Cheers all,
Malcolm.



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1124 times:
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Malandan
Im not a professional but i have learnt a lot from these guys here they sure do know their stuff .
Try to shoot at the lowest ISO when possible as this would reduce the grain a lot
Its touch sometimes with cloudy weather to get shots that are not grainy.
I hope it makes it as i love the shot and the plane
Good luck



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User currently offlineMalandan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1110 times:

Thanks for the advice Alan.

My problem relates to older film camera pictures, together with the feeling that screeners are toughening up where they rightly feel that the uploader could have improved such conditions using available software.

I see also where that there is a plan to establish a recommended procedure to help old duffers like me. I hope those more experienced will contribute to this and thus provide for all the kind of help I have received from Fergul and Mike in particular.

Malcolm.



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