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Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission  
User currently offlineQuetzalcoatl From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 91 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

I've received an e-mail from a fellow phtographer stating that one of my pictures is being used in a Varig web bulletin without my permission.

this is the link

http://portal.varig.com.br/agentes/netnews/xpress/NNE75.05/view

this is the photo


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Photo © Rafael Cordero - Aviation Photography of México



Just thought everyone should know, and look for extra a.net photos, maybe they are using more photos

Quetzalcoatl


I dream, therefore, I fly
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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1668 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3580 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

Rafael
Send them a bill for twice what you would normally charge and tell them that you are doing so because they have used your picture without permission, for the breach of your copyright.
It happened to me recently and I did that with a Norwegian Newspaper and I did get paid.
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineQuetzalcoatl From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3484 times:

Already did that, Mick

Thanks for the advice.

Will keep you posted.

Rafael



I dream, therefore, I fly
User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

It's amazing to see that airlines assume that because the picture is of their aircraft, they automatically have all rights to it. Regardless of whether the image has been protected by the copyright act.

Keep us posted, I hope you get blood out of the bastards.

Justin  Smile


User currently offlineSnowJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 207 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

Yes...best of luck to you on that. Their aircraft...our photos...end of story! Get 'em!  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

Thanks for posting, and good luck!
Go get 'em, they owe you money!

Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineCFIcraigAPA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

You would think the airlines themselves would have a little more class than some lowly business owner trying to save a buck or two. But if that's the game they want to play, we're up for the challenge. Keep us informed!
CM



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12566 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3281 times:
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Quoting CFIcraigAPA (Reply 6):
You would think the airlines themselves would have a little more class than some lowly business owner trying to save a buck or two.

I would be surprised if many airlines create their own websites - not core business. Many companies outsource their websites to image consulting firms who will produce the website to the company's specifications. It's entirely possible that some lowly web page coder has grabbed the first picture of a Varig plane he could find and used it.



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User currently offlineQuetzalcoatl From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3128 times:

As of today, I have not received any response from Varig in this issue.

I am going to send a couple of emails more.

will keep you posted

Q.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3069 times:

Surprising. I would use the phone and forego the email. This is wrong and anyone who does this should be held accountable.

Keep us posted!


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

Had a similar dealing with Air Holland once. They totally ignored me (though the photo was removed quickly).
Didn't have the money to hire a lawyer to go after them (which would likely have brought little as a few months later they went bust).



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User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2931 times:

Maybe ask for a free return ticket to Rio de Janeiro, instead of money...

Seriously though, for those with experience with sending invoices, what order of magnitude are we talking about here?


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

Two to three times the price listed for use (in the way it was used) by the professional photographers' association in your country (twice at least, add another 100% if no source is given).

Depending on location and size of the image that can run into the hundreds of Euros, up to over a thousand if it's large and prominent on the site.
And remember that fee is for a month max use, anything after that and it goes up.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Bill them for it.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

I wish you the best in this regard. But they usually don't respect copyrigths. So expect more time than you think for an answer[a positive one of course].

Keep us informed.


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