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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3965 posts, RR: 55
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

Hey all  wave ,

I took 2 contrail shots today (my first ones Big grin ) but I'm not really a 10% sure about the airlines and aircraft types.

First one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...irKas1/Contrail_AMS_12-04-05kj.jpg

I thought UA 763, but then someone else said 777. Any opinions on this one?

Then the second photo:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...as1/Contrail_AMS_12-04-05kj--2.jpg

I thought LH 744.

The both were coming from the east, going west.
The first one flew over at 18:02h and the 2nd one at 18:20h. (if it's any help).

Any thoughts?

Kas

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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24906 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

First one looks like a 767, second one a 744


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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2565 times:

You're right about number one. It is a United 767. Number two....Possibly SQ? If not SQ then LH would be my next guess.

Thanks,

Matt



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User currently offlineAdamWright From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

i think the first is a 777. The 763 wing's chordline is not that long at the root.

User currently offlineLurch From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

The second one looks like a DLH 744 the 1st is United mite be a T-7 as it looks a bit to big for a 767.

User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

I think the first one is a UA 763. I don't see the slightly raked wingtips that a 777 has.


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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

Definetly a UA 763 on the first one. The wing sweep on the 777 is much less than that of a 767.

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3965 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Thanks for the replies guys.

I already uploaded the United as a 777, so I'll know if it's a 767 if it gets rejected for badinfo.  Smile

Kas


User currently offlineMartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

I thought that the blue belly made it a BA767? At least it looked like that to me........ The second i'd need a larger image to recognize.


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User currently offlineDelta717 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 457 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting MartinairYYZ (Reply 8):
I thought that the blue belly made it a BA767

UA's a/c have bare metal strips on the bottom of most aircraft.

I say 777 for the first.


User currently offlineTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

OK Kasje,

here's the 10th opinion  Wink

First one looks definitely like a BA ... I don't know whether it's a 767 or a 777.

The second one is an LH 744.

Thomas


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I think the first one is a UA 763. I don't see the slightly raked wingtips that a 777 has.

The B772LR and B773ER are the only 777s with raked winglets (along with the 764).

Horus



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User currently offlineCFIcraigAPA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

UAL 763 - engines look too small to be a 777 IMO.
Second pic - no clue.
CM



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

Quoting CFIcraigAPA (Reply 12):
UAL 763 - engines look too small to be a 777 IMO.

UA has the PW engines, which aren't as big as the GE90's or the Trents.

Harry



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User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

It's not this by any chance is it?

http://timgoodwin.myphotoalbum.com/v...bumName=album05&id=ual763_copy_001

Tim.



Obviously missing something....
User currently offlineDraigonair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

First one UAL772
Second one Lufthansa 744

cheers!

Nick



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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Quoting Horus (Reply 11):
The B772LR and B773ER are the only 777s with raked winglets (along with the 764).

Wrong. The 772ER and non ER also have slightly raked wingtips, it is just not as pronounced as it is on the others you mentioned.



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3965 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 14):
It's not this by any chance is it?

http://timgoodwin.myphotoalbum.com/v...bumName=album05&id=ual763_copy_001

Tim.

Tim, thanks for that link. It gives a nice comparison. But... Now I'm thinking it's a 763  Silly Nothing wrong with that though.

I guess some may be right, and some may be not, It's kind of impossible to determine it with this many people who think it's a UA 763..... Or a UA 777....... Or a BA 767/777.

We'll know in a couple of days  Smile (Or does a screener have an opinion on this one?)

Kas


User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Kas,

That shot was taken a few weeks ago over MAN and I haven't determined what it is. I think it's a 763. It's definately in United's new colours. The blue of BA is much darker and there is no white on the belly.

It just struck me as being very similar to yours.


Tim.



Obviously missing something....
User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3965 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2270 times:

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 18):
That shot was taken a few weeks ago over MAN and I haven't determined what it is. I think it's a 763. It's definately in United's new colours. The blue of BA is much darker and there is no white on the belly.

Looks like a 763 to me aswell. But in Old Colours..  bouncy 

Kas


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6772 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

"The 772ER and non ER also have slightly raked wingtips"

You're saying these wingtips are raked?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/819359/M/

"The wing sweep on the 777 is much less than that of a 767."

Anybody agree with that?

[Edited 2005-04-16 23:06:55]

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3965 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Well, I have the results ladies Big grin

For everyone who said 767... You go on to the next round!  Smile

The UA got rejected for badinfo. This is what I put in:

Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS / EHAM)
Netherlands, April 12, 2005

United Airlines
Boeing 777-222/ER
Boeing 777-200

Reg: N***UA
Code:
Cn:


So I'm going to change it to a 767. Anything else that needs to be done?

But.. The 747 also got rejected for badinfo. Any ideas on this one, as I'm pretty sure it's a LH 744. What did I do wrong?

Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS / EHAM)
Netherlands, April 12, 2005

Lufthansa
Boeing 747-430
Boeing 747-400 (AL-1)

Reg: D-AB**
Code:
Cn:



Thanks,

Kas


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

First off all the location is wrong.
Should be: Off-Airport - Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS / EHAM)
Like described on the upload-page. Those little links named "Location help" where the highlightened yellow text "updated help" is placed below. Big grin



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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3965 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 22):
First off all the location is wrong.
Should be: Off-Airport - Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS / EHAM)

Argh! Makes sense Big grin I just thought it would be AMS, as they flew directly over us. Thanks a lot for the tip Peter!

Kas


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