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User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

Can someone tell me how this is badmotiv??

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ections/big/ECJCZGELDRIDGEMAD2.jpg

Glenn


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User currently offlineJFKTOWERFAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3101 times:
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You have that fence there in the foreground. These shots are getting accepted less and less.
(edit) Not just the fence, its really all that distracting clutter.
Corey

[Edited 2005-04-19 23:45:11]


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User currently offlineAnder From Spain, joined Jan 2005, 367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

Hi Glenn,
I believe there's two reasons:

-the fence and
-the other airbus nose appearing

Also I think there's a bit too much sky.
This one you could solve by cropping, the other two, not
much you can do.
Best regards

Ander



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

I'm gonna go with the fence, combined with that other nose in the background. One of these by itself might not have been enough to reject, but with them both together it becomes really distracting.

User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5689 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3081 times:
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Quoting JFKTOWERFAN (Reply 1):
You have that fence there in the foreground. These shots are getting accepted less and less.

And that reality is on a collision course with the fact that there are more and more fences all the time!
I would understand if the fence obstructed the plane .. but it doesn't

Maybe some thought should be given to that!

Regards

Chris



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 5):
Maybe some thought should be given to that!

I say rule of thirds: The fence cannot cover more than 1/3rd of the picture, and the fence cannot obstruct the aircraft.


User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 3):
its all bollocks this though, can still see the f**king aircraft

Yep its the fence alright! . . . .

and if you think thats bad this was done for the same


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User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Fergul, that one i can see as the fence is right there in the foreground, how ever in the first post I really dont see why that counts at all.

User currently offlineManzoori From UK - England, joined Sep 2002, 1516 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

I'm going to go with (in no particular order)

1. Fence
2. Other aircraft nose
3. Cropped wing tip and tailplane
4. Too much sky

My £0,03 worth

Rez
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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 8):
how ever in the first post I really dont see why that counts at all

I have seen less fence get bad motive, the first post, the fence is in the foreground, take it or leave it. (I'm not being sarcastic here either, That's the way it is, a.net don't like anything that takes away from the photo, fences included)

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User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

Hi Glenn

Of course, I know the spot - having spent many hours in the same place with Alfonso - and it is nearly impossible to get shots from there without having some fence in the shot.


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And I am not the only one shooting from there.


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The last one in almost the same position that you got.


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And the last 2 even more fence than the average picture.

The last 4 shots were added in the last month - so they are recent. So, I am not sure that it is in fact the fence that gives you bad motive. Perhaps asking the screener would shed more light on to the subject?

Andy


User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

I wonder where the line is drawn here?

Clearly at some airports you are far more likely to get the fence in the way than at others. At an airport where there is a known 'fence problem', is it then more acceptable?

Tim.



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days ago) and read 2946 times:

Quoting Manzoori (Reply 8):
3. Cropped wing tip and tailplane

I believe this is the reason it got rejected and not the fence .
I just got a shot excepted and the fence is in full view .
Good luck with your future uploads EZYairbus



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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days ago) and read 2933 times:

You can have objects in the foreground like signs, sticks, aerials, traffic cones, fencing etc. If a.net didn't allow them, it would only encourage people to start removing them.

I think as long as they're 'part of the scene' and not an awkward distraction - a subjective distincion, I know - then it's okay. This is what some airports look like for us, no way around that.

Glenn, it may have helped if the aircraft was framed a little wider in this instance. It doesn't quite 'look' right as it is. I know how hard the 346 is close up.


Cheers


James



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User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting Manzoori (Reply 8):
3. Cropped wing tip and tailplane



Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 12):
I believe this is the reason it got rejected and not the fence .

Can't be the cropped wing/tailplane. That's a standard full fuselage crop. There are lots of photos on such lines in the db:


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