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Too Many Shots Of A Paticular Aircraft  
User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

Hi Guys,

Had a 'badpersonnal' regarding one of my recent uploads as follows,

A comment from the screener regarding this upload 835976
"keep in mind that you already have 13 images of this plane in the database and 2 are of similar angles like this one. 640679 and 639411. anymore of the same angles and they might be considered for baddouble"

My question is, as my technique and or equipment improves, and I get a much better pictures of that paticular aircraft, can older lower quality ones be removed one at a time at my request?

regards


Canon 550D, 18-55, 50 1.8, 100-400L
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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

John,

I don't think it's possible. A) The screeners point of view is that at any given time you should only be uploading the best anyway and b) Irrespective of quality it's still a record of a particular aircraft at that date and time, and therefore why remove it?


Cheers


james



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Yes you can!!

You can reload better quality photos of the ones you have added.

See link below, I'm not too sure what the rules are with this, as in can you replace an old photo with a new one even if its a different view etc.

http://www.airliners.net/reupload/

Fergul 

I have just read the page and its pretty self explanitry,

Quote:
This is our photo update and improvement section. Here you can send in better versions of photos you have already sent us. All information will remain unchanged like counter, photo ID number and the location in our database. Do note that the new photo needs to be exactly the same as the old, only with improved quality. Same rules apply here as when you upload new photos and we reserve the right to refuse an upload for any reason.


[Edited 2005-05-13 15:48:02]


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User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 2):
The screeners point of view is that at any given time you should only be uploading the best anyway and b) Irrespective of quality it's still a record of a particular aircraft at that date and time

Hi Fergul/James
So will a virtually identical shot of the same aircraft, same lighting, location etc, but say a year later, but with a better quality lens be accepted or 'baddouble'?

Not talking about an improved photoshop'd version, just a much better picture.

regards

[Edited 2005-05-13 15:57:27]

[Edited 2005-05-13 15:58:18]


Canon 550D, 18-55, 50 1.8, 100-400L
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 2):
as in can you replace an old photo with a new one even if its a different view etc.



Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 2):
Do note that the new photo needs to be exactly the same as the old, only with improved quality.

I think you answered your own question Fergul.

You CANNOT replace a photo already in the database with a different picture. You can only submit an improved quality version of the original.

Andy


User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

Quoting Johndm1957 (Thread starter):
My question is, as my technique and or equipment improves, and I get a much better pictures of that paticular aircraft, can older lower quality ones be removed one at a time at my request?

Old photos can be removed from the database at photographer request, but generally its not something we do just because of quality issues, or to give you that "room for manoeuvre" on new pics. Usually, photos are removed if the photographer asks because they are leaving a.net, or if a specific photo is causing some sort of problems for the photographer, but not just on a whim.

However, if you have a new photo of a particular subject and it is better than those you already have on the database, it shouldn't be such a problem getting that new one accepted. Its only when your new offering is of similar or inferior quality than those of the same subject that you already have a number of pics of when we'll tend to get more picky.

Andy


User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

Quoting Johndm1957 (Reply 3):
So will a virtually identical shot of the same aircraft, same lighting, location etc, but say a year later, but with a better quality lens be accepted or 'baddouble'?

No, it won't be accepted just because you use a better quality lens - any monkey (no disrespect or inference to you) can use good quality lenses, its the results they deliver when the picture is processed and uploaded that count.

But a virtually identical shot might be accepted if the end result uploaded here is of noticably better quality (i.e. it probably needs to be a step change rather than an incremental improvement).

Andy


User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

Quoting Johndm1957 (Reply 3):
So will a virtually identical shot of the same aircraft, same lighting, location etc, but say a year later, but with a better qualiy lens be accepted or 'baddouble'?



Quoting Johndm1957 (Thread starter):
"keep in mind that you already have 13 images of this plane in the database and 2 are of similar angles like this one. 640679 and 639411. anymore of the same angles and they might be considered for baddouble"

I guess so John, only a screener can really answer that. If you have improved your Photoshop technique and you inprove some of the shots that are in the DB you can reload them but another shot a year later is a new upload so it will be judged in the same way, I'm guessing.

Fergul Big grin



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

Quoting Skymonster (Reply 4):
I think you answered your own question Fergul.

Yeah I know Andy, thanks! I should have read it before posting the link.

Take care

Fergul 

PS . . and my last post has also been answered too.

Quoting Johndm1957 (Thread starter):
keep in mind that you already have 13 images of this plane in the database

No offence John but I think 13 in the DB is enough mate, you can always upload to your own gallery if you have one on the net.

[Edited 2005-05-13 16:15:06]


Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2967 times:

Hi Andy,

Many thanks for making that clear.

I was thinking it was not worth taking any more shots of my favourite aircraft, (G-AWII).

Regards,

John



Canon 550D, 18-55, 50 1.8, 100-400L
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

John,

Its ALWAYS worth taking more shots of your favourite aircraft. Firstly, you might get a better pic than any you have already, and secondly and more importantly whatever the policy here you have those additional pictures for yourself and can do with them as you wish (with the possible exception of uploading them to a.net!). In other words, don't stop taking pictures just because of a.net!

Andy


User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2957 times:

Quoting Skymonster (Reply 10):
don't stop taking pictures just because of a.net!

Well said Andy!
John you can always create a web gallery in Pbase or photobucket or any of those photo web sites and store and share you photos there.

Take care

Fergul Big grin



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