Blackened From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2068 times:
The Sensia 100 is Ok and I guess many people use it. Provia is better because it has a finer grain but it's more expensive. I don't think there is such a big difference between Sensia and Provia. The Sensia is also very good for aviation photography. If I were you I'd definitely try a roll of Provia just to see how it turns out. Try both film on the same day. I think the difference will be mostly about grain but not too big. You don't necessarily need the Provia to make good pics but I would say it's the best film around.
(I was talking about the Sensia 100 BTW. The Sensia 200 is in my eyes too grainy for shots in good light - noticably worse than Provia. Take the 100 instead as long as the light isn't too bad)
Blackened From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2035 times:
I've never seen a Provia 400 and they don't have it on their website (?).
Here's some photographers' names with their films:
(hope you don't mind me doing this guys but you told that you're using these films here in the forum )
Sensia: Florian Kondziela, Pixair
Provia: Charles Falk, Chris Coduto
(as far as I can remember)
I don't know if any of their pics were taken with those films.
Bodobodo From Canada, joined May 2000, 553 posts, RR: 12 Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2029 times:
I use a both Sensia II 100 and Provia 100F. I'll never claim that Sensia is as good as Provia but for most purposes it does a good job. It's my main film since it's quite a bit cheaper than Provia but it is definately grainier than Provia but most films are grainier than Provia. I find that Sensia II is a bit more forgiving of exposure errors than Provia. You can check out my photos on the site if you are interested under the name Felix Sieder.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2013 times:
I switched to Provia last year and really love it. It's got just the right amount of saturation (Velvia is a little bit too saturated, I think), gives you an extra stop or so over K64, and has no detectable grain.
My only problem is in scanning, where I am still changing my system now and again, but have no intention in changing my film.
Provia 400F does exist, (there is even a 1600F) and I've shot a few rolls of it. There is a bit more grain, I'd say the performance and grain is about on par with Sensia II 200, but with an extra stop of speed. I don't plan to use it any more since I picked up my 70-200mm f/2.8, which gives plenty of light for 100 speed film, even in poor weather. But if you have a slow lens and you can't seem to make it work with 100 speed, try it out.
Under a loupe, everything is as clear as anything you can imagine - absolutely no grain. The colors are also exactly what was there in front of me that day. Any fuzziness is due to some bluriness in my scanner which I have to try to correct.
Provia is essentially a Sensia where they pushed the grain and color performance a bit more than would be possible with a consumer grade film (i.e. one which does not need to be refrigerated to have a shelf life of a couple of years.)
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1987 times:
I forgot to mention - I only "discovered" the gamma adjustment feature in the past few weeks. Duh! My Nikon scanner tends to scan dark, and now I use the Gamma setting on the scanner software to fix that. But if you don't do it right, you get that scatter in the dark areas, like you see on the dark underbelly of the Volare.
Hell, all this time and I'm still learning. I'll probably change procedures again in a few weeks.
Sensia is a consumer grade film, which is made to be kept on store shelves for a good long time, just like Kodak Gold or other common brands. Provia is "professional" film, which means that its shelf life if stored above 15 degrees celsius (about 60 F) is only 1 or 2 months - obviously not long enough for the usual consumer, who might keep a loaded camera for months, and for stores not equiped with a fridge for films.
Gerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 33 Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1977 times:
Ah, yes! The MD11 pic looks better.
Thanks for the input.
Charles, you said, that you had problems scanning the Provia slides. Doe you have problems only with Provia 400 or also with 100? And are those problems hardware related (i.e. scanner driving you crazy) or is something you can fix with software settigs, as shown on the MD11 pic?
dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (12 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1984 times:
It's the scanner. It's driving me nuts. For one thing, I keep getting these vertical lines when the scanner hasn't warmed up yet - and it takes about an hour's worth of use before it's warmed up. Also, the pictures always seem a little out of focus, even at 2700 dpi and with the autofocus turned on - the slide itself is always much sharper.
By the time I've figured out a foolproof process, it'll be time for me to upgrade my scanner and start all over again!