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Standards On Air To Air Pics  
User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

Hey click happys,

I was flying home on SAS today when I had the perfect chance to get an air to air shot  Silly, sadly I was eating and didn't catch the MD-82 going past us but then 15 mins later I got another chance  Wink This time a LH 744 came directly toward us and I had my camera handy.

Now im not great with editing and not great with a steady hand. But I have a feeling this could be a baddistance resulting in a rejection  Sad this is the best quality I can get from my editing standards it has been handed to professionals since... But what are the standards to an air to air shot for acceptance?

Here's the shot...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/kazkaz/luftey744air2aircopy.jpg

yes yes im aware of the dust spots not edited them out yet....

Any feed back appreciated  Smile

Kaz x

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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3261 times:
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Nice try, but I'm afraid this won't make it, it looks blurry/heathazed.

Cheers
Tim



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User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5576 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3240 times:
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Hi

Not so much bad distance but blurry and full of dust spots.

Regards

Gary


User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

i see some sort of... shaddow of the contrail? just below it, whats that from the double glazing?

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/ua777222/luftey744air2aircopy.jpg

Just some that I could find. Sorry I used blue for the color.

Thanks,

Matt



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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3153 times:

Cheers guys I said I hadn't sorted the dust spots yet but thanks anyway  Silly

Ah well shame it cant be edited to A.net standard my heart was racing when I saw this beast coming and had the camera armed and ready  Smile

Maybe next time...

Kaz  Wink


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Kaz,

what lens did you use for that photo. I always wonder if people would react when putting the 100-400mm against the window Big grin

Ivan



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User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Although it may not make it to the Airliners.Net Database...It is a really great Picture.

AerLingus330



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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

Quoting Apuneger (Reply 6):
what lens did you use for that photo. I always wonder if people would react when putting the 100-400mm against the window

100-400  Wink I got a few funny looks and the Cabin crew had a strange look on there face when they went past  Wink


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

here's a bit bigger image because it was resized in the forums and in the process showed a bunch of jaggies:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/kazkaz/luftey744air2aircopy.jpg

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 1):
Nice try, but I'm afraid this won't make it, it looks blurry/heathazed.

Blurry yes, but is it even possible to have heat haze at cruise altitude?


User currently offlineJavibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1371 posts, RR: 41
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Kaz, if you want to send the original to my mail, I'd like to give it a try.

Quoting Pilot kaz (Reply 5):
my heart was racing when I saw this beast coming

I know that feeling, though air to air is EVEN more frustrating than panning  Smile

j



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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

If you can't get it up to A.net standards, you ought to at least put it up on MyAviation.

David / ABQ


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Quoting Apuneger (Reply 6):
what lens did you use for that photo. I always wonder if people would react when putting the 100-400mm against the window

I did something like that on my flight to LHR on a BA 319. We were in holding and I saw a BA 757 flying next to and VERY CLOSE to us. I quickly got out my cam (300D + 70-200 with that black hood on it). As the 757 was kind of above us, I was sitting on the ground and halfway under the seat in front of me.
It took me some time to explain the Canadian lady sitting next to me what I was doing haha 


Kas

[Edited 2005-05-22 21:59:31]

User currently onlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2396 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3011 times:

Aircraft windows are a real pain to shoot through. Every time I try to get an air-to-air I shoot about 50 to 100 frames and maybe one or two work out. Flightdeck windows play extra havoc due to the heating elements and squashed bugs!

Whenever I pull out my 100-400 to try snap one I have to endure the 'compensation' jokes about the size of my......car.


User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1682 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2959 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

I am no expert on this though I have recently had a few air to ground shots accepted, the first I've taken in years.
The window glass is a pain and vibration is also a problem. The dilemma is that you need to get as close as possible to the glass to minimise its effects but you must not actually touch it as the vibration of the aircraft is then transmitted to the camera (try it, you really can feel it) and that would only exaggerate the problem when using a long lens. I actually use the heel of my hand to keep the camera a mm or so off the window. A rubber lens hood would undoubtedly be even better for keeping cabin reflections down too.
Heat haze at 30+ thousand feet and a temperature of -40C, I think not.
Vibration is however a definate maybe.
Mick Bajcar


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