Photojournalism is a particular form of journalism (i.e., the collecting, editing, and presenting of news material for publication or broadcast) that creates images in order to tell a news story. It is now usually understood to refer only to still images, and to refer largely to serious news stories. Photojournalism is distinguished from other close branches of photography (such as documentary photography, street photography or celebrity photography) by the qualities of: *Timeliness - the images
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photojournalist
The reason why this definition is important is in light of issues such as security and intellectual property rights. If we are to protect our ability to simply shoot planes the explanation : " i photograph planes 'cos i like it" may not be simply not valid anymore. Please refer to Bronkos thread on intellectual property issues AND the usual security hassle threads that pop every weeek.
TS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1627 times:
Interesting topic, but I tend to disagree with you. There are journalists who need their press credentials in order to get their job done & to earn money. On this site the vast majority of contributors are just hobby photographers & not photojournalists. Real journalists would lose much credibility if everyone would get press credentials.
Quoting Eksath (Thread starter): " i photograph planes 'cos i like it" may not be simply not valid anymore.
It is still valid. There is no law against aviation photography (at least in Western societies), so aviation photographers just have to insist on their rights.
SkyWestFan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 179 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1611 times:
It may have been discussed before, but another view though its credibility is unkown is found here:
Photopilot From Cuba, joined Jul 2002, 2439 posts, RR: 20 Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1593 times:
Well I would NOT call the people who contribute to this site Photojournalists. They would be more generally classified as Docomentary Photographers. They are simply documenting the arrivals, departures, etc., of aviation.
Only those who regularly PUBLISH in printed form for PAYMENT would really be classified as Photojournalists.
Publishing on a website such as A.net, while a noble endeavour really isn't photojournalism per se.
To me, you're simply a hobbyist until you earn a FULLTIME paycheque from Photojournalism.
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1555 times:
Quoting Eksath (Thread starter): The reason why this definition is important is in light of issues such as security and intellectual property rights. If we are to protect our ability to simply shoot planes the explanation : " i photograph planes 'cos i like it" may not be simply not valid anymore.
It's not what we call ourselves, or this website, it's what we do with the pictures. If you sell an image with someone else's trademarked logo or intellectual property on it to someone other then a journalistic endeavor, such as a company that wants to make postcards or posters, or coffee mugs, t-shirts, decals, or for them to use your image in marketing their different product without gaining permission to use the trademarked item, you can run into problems. Justifiably so. Your copyright of someone else's trademark just got trumped.
Senorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1543 times:
Quoting Photopilot (Reply 3):
Only those who regularly PUBLISH in printed form for PAYMENT would really be classified as Photojournalists.
What if a photo of yours is labeled as "For Sale" on this very website and prints are being bought? Would you still be a hobbyist, or would you have to be considered a photojournalist now?
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1533 times:
Quoting Senorcarnival (Reply 6): Would you still be a hobbyist, or would you have to be considered a photojournalist now?
Keyword............Publish. Anyone can buy a print and hang it on their wall.
I can't believe this concept is so hard for people to grasp.
Paulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1114 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1528 times:
Another thing that I have seen, is you almost always get a better response from police and security people if you just say you are doing it for a hobby instead of saying you sell pictures.
Just my two cents.
Canon 50D user; 100-400 MM L IS 10-22 MM, 60MM Macro
INNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 62 Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1496 times:
Quoting Senorcarnival (Reply 6): Would you still be a hobbyist, or would you have to be considered a photojournalist now?
I would consider you as a photojournalist if you got a degree in photojournalism ( or fine arts ), if you either work for a paper / company or freelance and if you regularly get paid for regular assignments you shoot.
I guess very few of the thousands of photographers on A.net fit this genre.
IL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1492 times:
As far as I can tell, we're just a bunch of weirdos taking pictures of flying machines. Or, to generalise it even further, basically 'people taking pictures', just like billions of others... Taking holiday pictures doesn't make you a travel journalist/photographer either.
Freelance Aviation photojournalism?
If you're make a living out of it, yes. Otherwise, no.