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How Do They Do This Kind Of Photography?  
User currently offlineAn225 From Israel, joined May 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4365 times:

Hello everybody,
Every now and than someone is taking those beautiful and extraordinary pictures of aircraft taking-off or during approach, etc.  Wow!
It looks like the photographer is above the object (i.e. the plane).
I mean something like these:





So I wondered:  Confused
1. Are these pictures genuine?
2. If the answer to question (1) is "of course" (which I believe is the case), than what is the technique? I would sure like to have some of these of my own making  bigthumbsup 

Thanks,

Uzi


p.s. I am not sure that I understand how to attach the pictures, although I used the 'help' section to do that. If someone could clarify this issue, I would be grateful.

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User currently offlineUa777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

I've always tried to shoot the red x but can't seem to get the right mix of lighting + timing. LOL. Your photo links/hosts are faulty check em please!

Thanks,

Matt



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User currently offlineKarlok From Netherlands, joined Mar 2002, 839 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4347 times:

Air-to-Air shot, probably they fly with a Cessna in the CTR.

User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4341 times:

The technique is to shoot from a plane above the other one...

/JM



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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4331 times:

How Was This Picture Taken? (by RootsAir Apr 17 2005 in Aviation Photography)
Great Photo LAX (by Tappan Mar 12 2005 in Aviation Photography)
Right Into Your Face (by PUnmuth@VIE Aug 17 2004 in Aviation Photography)
Sam, You Are The Man! (by Scooter Apr 30 2004 in Aviation Photography)
How Do You Take A Photo Like This? (by Bruce May 25 2004 in Aviation Photography)
I Walked Away With A Laugh (by N178UA Jun 7 2004 in Aviation Photography)
I think those threads will answer your question about genuine and how they where taken

[Edited 2005-06-09 12:21:19]


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User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4326 times:

As for posting photos, just use this code (without the spaces next to the brackets): < photoid:123456 >


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-Q



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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

Quoting An225 (Thread starter):
1. Are these pictures genuine?

Why wouldn't they be. Sam Chui is a very respected photographer and is in no position to submit false photos.

Quoting An225 (Thread starter):
than what is the technique? I would sure like to have some of these of my own making   

$100 an hour, a pilot, and good timing...


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Thanks,

Matt



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User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

How Do They Do This Kind Of Photography?.... A very tall set of stepladders  Smile

User currently offlineAn225 From Israel, joined May 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 6):
Why wouldn't they be. Sam Chui is a very respected photographer and is in no position to submit false photos.

I have never meant to undermine Sam's integrity or to smear his reputation. I was speaking generally and I apologize if this wasn't understood. I hope to be someday as good photographer as Sam.  white 

Quoting Willo (Reply 7):
How Do They Do This Kind Of Photography?.... A very tall set of stepladders

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Quoting Karlok (Reply 2):
Air-to-Air shot, probably they fly with a Cessna in the CTR

This brings me back to some more questions:
Is that allowed?
Do you need to fly with one of the doors removed? or fitting the airplane with special equipment?

My point from the beginning was to ask for the technique details etc.

I hope that this clarify my motive


Uzi


User currently offlineBeechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 41
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4212 times:

Uzi,
it is allowed.
There are VFR transitions going through control zones in some (or even many) US Airports like LAX and PHX, for example.

Denis



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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4211 times:

Quoting An225 (Reply 8):
This brings me back to some more questions:
Is that allowed?
Do you need to fly with one of the doors removed? or fitting the airplane with special equipment?

I think that I can answer these questions, since I did 2 flights like these while I was in LA.

You have to unscrew the hinges in the windows. If you do that, they can open up all the way to the wing. That way, you will have a lot of room to shoot through. If you tape the window to the wing, it will stay open even if you fly slowly.

It is allowed, you are simply flying general aviation flightpaths and you get clearance from the ATC. You dont mention that you are taking photos, you just do so.

It really isnt that hard, you just need to take all the wind and vibrations from the engine into account. And you need good visibility, but that is logical  Smile.


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Oh and one more thing: LUCK is everything!



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

Yeh its real awesome...

one question if shooting from cessna wont the window distort the image?? When i shoot through passenger window its kind of blurry when i use my EF100-400mm but when i would shoot through cessna window it would be fine?

cheers

Nick



cheers
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

Quoting DRAIGONAIR (Reply 11):
one question if shooting from cessna wont the window distort the image?? When i shoot through passenger window its kind of blurry when i use my EF100-400mm but when i would shoot through cessna window it would be fine?

You don't shoot through the windows, you shoot through an open window. This means that it will get cold though!



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4115 times:

aaah haha  Smile As in you open the window ? release the latch so it flips open?

Nick



cheers
User currently offlineSkyWestFan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 179 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4061 times:

After looking at some of those examles I went out and had it a go.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/989MAto.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/GOBYHinflightsm.jpg


1.6 on the hobbs over $100 and these are about all I could get out of it.

Keep in mind after all the BOTH of these were rejected for bad DISTANCE. Im a little discouraged considering other examples of these kind of shots that already are on a.net (and further away from the subject than mine).

I recropped one:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/GOBYHinflightcropped.jpg

But I dont think the quality will be there now.

Life can be unfair at time  Sad


SW
MF



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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4054 times:

Quoting SkyWestFan (Reply 14):

Life can be unfair at time Sad

The distance is not a problem if the quality is good enough. Yours look blurry, wrong contrast and the colors are off. Did you shoot through a window?



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineSkyWestFan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 179 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

No they were shot throw an open window. The contrast has been really weird. Almost like it needs a polarized filter or something. I havent been abel to get the color quite right.

Anyway-
Thanks!


SW



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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3974 times:
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The Thomsonfly 767 is pretty good!

You could crop slightly less (maybe to the edge of the shadow on the rear and leaving a similar space to the front), increase the contrast a bit maybe balance the color and it will have a good chance of making it.

Cheers
Tim



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User currently offlineAdamWright From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3902 times:

I was the Pilot and Photographer here.. the trick is getting it to go over well with ATC. I just told PalmBeach Approach I was going to circle and "Marvel at your wonderful airport for about 5 minutes"  Silly


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User currently offlineGOCAPS16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4341 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

Having a private pilot's license really helps for photo ops. This practice is getting very common now after Sam Chui's LAX shots.

Kevin


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