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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1587 times:
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Microsoft is offering a free Beta download of their new Photoshop competitor, Expression.

http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/

The program is based off a product called Creature House Expression 3, a review of that product can be found here:

http://www.creativemac.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=15353

The article concludes;

And it has all the tools and functionality you'd expect from a professional-level creative suite. I give Creature House Expression 3 a Strong Buy recommendation.

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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1578 times:

Thanks Royal, I had heard rumor of this, but had not seen much of it lately. Have you tried it?

User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

Downloading it now. Very much doubt it can replace PS CS2... I'll bet that little paperclip shows up and want's to teach me how to save as jpg or some other elementary task.


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 2):
Downloading it now. Very much doubt it can replace PS CS2... I'll bet that little paperclip shows up and want's to teach me how to save as jpg or some other elementary task.

Don't underestimate Microsoft. They're very good at taking an established platform and marketing it themselves. I'll bet if it's not good now, it will be.



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

I'm gonna download. If it works well for me, it will go up on my FAQ page along with my photoshop workflow.

Does this thing do .RAW?


User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

Quoting Sulman (Reply 3):
Don't underestimate Microsoft. They're very good at taking an established platform and marketing it themselves. I'll bet if it's not good now, it will be.

That's true. I don't think they'll ever get the pro market though. There were Photoshop competitors like Electric Image before, and there are alternatives now like GIMP and PSP. But with PS being maybe the greatest piece of software on earth   I don't see myself ever switching. But this might make a good consumer photoeditor. I imagine it wont be expensive and will probably soon be bundled with alot of cameras. Just my guess. I only needed a few minutes to decide I didn't like the interface.


edit: DLKAPA no it didn't read my .NEF files, and I dont see any other rawformats in the list either.

[Edited 2005-06-10 22:53:31]


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

Just tried it. It seems to have many features that PS has but slightly different. USM for instance is radius, amount, threshold instead of amount, radius, threshold as in PS. The sliders were better though at low numbers.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 4):
Does this thing do .RAW?

Nope.

Staffan


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1537 times:

every time I try to do something I get a thing that says "filter failed because of internal error" so so far it's done absolutely nothing.

User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1528 times:

I also get an error when using USM.

Staffan


User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1503 times:

same error here with most filters.


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1468 times:

Works pretty good for me. No errors other then the operator type. Reading the tips and file that came with it helped there. The auto contrast feature worked really well on a few images that I tried it on, as did the saturation. Might be nice to use in conjunction with CS for certain things, but you can tell it is designed more for the Graphic Artist, then for working photos.

User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1462 times:
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Jeff, I did download it, seems to be more geared for Freehand users, things like Vector art, paths, that kind of thing.

I just upgraded to Photoshop CS and now CS2 comes out. Ugh, more $$$


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

got an error number 2775, not sure what it means..


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User currently offlineKereru From New Zealand, joined Jun 2003, 873 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

CS2 has some brilliant new tools. I attended the free CS2 seminar in Auckland yesterday. The new vanishing point tool that can clone areas in perspective is really good. As the presenter said this version is aimed at the digital photographer and even uses photographers terms now instead of printer terms. Another feature is being able to adjust the meta data like the aperture and see the result on screen. Bridge has taken over the role of file browser and integrates all five programs that make up CS2 Premium. If you get the chance the free seminar is well worth the time and effort to attend.

For those living in Australia check out the time they will be near you over the next month.
http://events.adobe.co.uk/events/cgi/main.cgi?country=pa

For other parts of the world go to the Adobe web site for info.

Sorry if I got off subject but Expression doesn't have a Mac version to trial.  Smile

Cheers,
Colin



Good things take Time.
User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

Thanks for the link Colin, here is the US link

http://adobe.regsvc.com/reg/site2/overview.asp?site=749&mc=a

I am really interested in going, but photographers is not on their list of people who should attend. Was it a really high pressure "buy our software!" type thing? I'd have to put some company name down and stuff, lol. I'll call them on monday for more info.

As for the MS Expression, I am having some of those same errors. Definetely the beta version.  Smile

Regards



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User currently offlineKereru From New Zealand, joined Jun 2003, 873 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

F9Widebody

It looks like you may have limited seats available and there are just two sessions. The one here was split into 4 sessions and I guess with our small population everybody could go and they even asked us to bring a friend. Overall at a guess there would have been 400 to 500 at the main sessions. They did mention a couple of times to go out and buy but not a real hard push.
Still worth a try if you can go as a photographer.
Here is the web site that lists the South East Asia seminar format.
http://events.adobe.co.uk/events/cgi/event.cgi?country=pa&eventid=2252

Cheers.



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