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Wow, None For Seven  
User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 23
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Well here's a first, 7 uploads all rejected

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r.../big/220505_coa737_n27733_sxm2.jpg

Badquality, Badsoft, Badcopyright (Actually Badpersonal, but the text from the screener was "Label")............bad quality, that was a surprise !!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...s/big/220505_crl332_fhcat_sxm2.jpg

Badquality, Badcentered, Badpersonal (copyright)

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ons/big/180605_csa310_okyad_yz.jpg

Badpersonal (copyright)

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ns/big/180605_afr343_fglzm_yz3.jpg

Badquality, Badcameraangle

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...fat72_n407at_sxm2.jpg&appealed=yes

Badpersonal (copyright)

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ji722_n794aj_sxm2.jpg&appealed=yes

Badpersonal (copyright)

Just a note about the copyright thing. If you look through my last 1000 or so shots on this database they contain exactly the same copyright notice applied in exatly the same way. I thought the rule was that copyright marks are OK as long as they were not visible on the thumnail?

One was a badangle, which on reflection was correct.

Looks like I may be back to 5 upload slots before long !  

[Edited 2005-06-29 14:07:01]

[Edited 2005-06-29 14:07:42]


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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1924 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

You're lucky that you're not doing this for a living  Big grin

User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

Garry - Had a quick look at these and have to go with the screeners conclusions. CSA A310 is grey and horrid. The AF A340 is ropey, especially with the photographers in the base of the photo. The Corseair A330 (if I recall correctly) at St.M is badly framed (although I see what you are trying to achieve).

Probably doesn't help.


User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

Quoting Atco (Thread starter):
Just a note about the copyright thing. If you look through my last 1000 or so shots on this database they contain exactly the same copyright notice applied in exatly the same way. I thought the rule was that copyright marks are OK as long as they were not visible on the thumnail?

That was my understanding of the rule too.

Fergul Big grin



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User currently offlineCabbott From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 497 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

Hi Gary

Most of those photographs rock! No bad quality there.

The A340 is not good for me. I like photographers but I dont want to see them in a.net photos.

The CSA is a good style of shot but its a little dark.

Maybe some of your shots are to artistic for here? Get yourself over to LHR 27R, spent a day then upload everything from your CF card and bore us all to death.


User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

The badsoft on the CO 737 really isn't warranted. Very harsh imo.


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

I knew the CSA was borderline at best, I thought it was worth trying because of the unusual low level flight attitude........Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
I suspected it would probably be baddark, but it was only given badpersonal (again copyright label).



AirTeamImages
User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

Quoting Atco (Thread starter):
I thought the rule was that copyright marks are OK as long as they were not visible on the thumnail?

Exactly, but sometimes it feels like they will reject it if it's visible at all...
Too bad they don't simply follow the rules in that case...

What harm does a small copyright do ?
Your's is nicely done as well...

For a database of aircraft, I find it strange that they are so picky about that.

Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3213 times:

What is the purpose of that additional copyright anyway? It took like 20 seconds to remove it.

User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 8):
What is the purpose of that additional copyright anyway?

Oh Jeff,

Like I've said enough times in the related thread...

every little step...

Besides, Even if it only takes 20 seconds to remove it...
Why can we still have it ?

It's not like it ruins the picture...

Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineTFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

By Label, i think they mean the Heineken logo in the picture...

User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Because Jeff if you find your picture being used somewhere and the copyright has been cloned out it shows that the picture has been purposely stolen and edited..........in other words intent.

Why do you lock your front door and shut your windows, I mean it won't stop a determined burglar will it?
Its just extra steps you take to protect your property, isn't it?

EDIT: Most of the links will not work now as I have appealed 2 (1 accepted, thanks) and now appealed another 2

Thanks all for the comments (Lost 10 upload slots Big grin)

[Edited 2005-06-29 18:39:11]


AirTeamImages
User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3013 times:

I had a hard time finding the copywrite so I don't think it was too obvious.

Thanks,

Matt



"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
User currently offlineSnowJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 207 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2989 times:

Hey don't feel bad dude, I'm none for nine today, and it seems since the site has had it's regime change, they're finding more and more reasons to reject photos. Granted I agree with some of the comments above, but they're great shots! I'm beginning to lose my patience for the simple fact that I'm tired of my photos being "not good enough", and am thinking of going the way of many other former A.net photographers and going elsewhere. Everyone has their opinion and I frankly don't care who has something to say in rebuttal to this, but I honestly think it sucks and I've about had enough. I've given it a fair chance and I'm losing my patience fast. I understand it's supposed to make you a "better photographer", but I could be making money off of probably 85% of the "rejects" I've had over the last year. Not that I will mind you, I shoot for the love of it, but when you're constantly told that all the work and effort you've put into your photos is for sh*t...well that's crossed the line for me.  irked   mad   banghead   boggled 


Jaysen F. Snow - Midwest Tail Chasers
User currently offlineLtena From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 70 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Hi, cool photos but I dont think its possible to upload photos with your copyrights in watermark as I can see in the top left of them...


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User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Yep, same boat today. 5 submissions, 5 rejections all for badquality.

This was originally "badjagged" and "badcategory".

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...jections/big/n109tf040605epsom.jpg

Reworked from scratch and resubmitted. This time "badquality"

http://www.lyntons.plus.com/planes/images/r-n109tf040605epsoma.jpg

Appealed and rejected. Can someone please tell me what is wrong with it because I'm afraid I don't know?  worried 


User currently offlineSidewinder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

Quoting Atco (Thread starter):
Well here's a first, 7 uploads all rejected

I am new to a.net and this has been my experience so far...

I have uploaded exactly 7 photos to this website...all have been rejected. This gets very discouraging, I have gone out and purchased new equipment, photo editing software, and spent hours learning the camera and software as well as spent countless hours at the airport.

It does appear that if you have a unique photo that they will lower the standard of quality.

I know that they have thousands of photos to screen.."but throw me a freaken bone people"


User currently offlineDehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 1057 posts, RR: 33
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

Nice helo shots Willo.
Cheers and better luck next time
Darren



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User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

Quoting SnowJ (Reply 13):
I'm tired of my photos being "not good enough", and am thinking of going the way of many other former A.net photographers and going elsewhere.

You're not the only one!

Some of us here do this as a hobby and love every minute of it.

It does get very upsetting to think that we go out and enjoy taking pics. I actully leave the airport thinking that maybe others would enjoy looking at my work on A.net. Then a few days later to have all that work rejected, sometimes does get to you.

[Edited 2005-06-30 04:40:43]

User currently offlineSnowJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 207 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2834 times:

Exactly. I'm glad to see that someone agrees with at least part of what I've said for a change.  Wink


Jaysen F. Snow - Midwest Tail Chasers
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Quoting Tommy Mogren (Reply 9):
Quoting JeffM (Reply 8):
What is the purpose of that additional copyright anyway?

Oh Jeff,

Like I've said enough times in the related thread...

every little step...

Please...in my opinion you might just be taking this a little too seriously. Why not just put your initials in the photo someplace? I have a few hundred with them in it. You will only see them when the photo is at 200% and they are rarely in the same place more then once. Be creative.

Quoting Atco (Reply 11):
Why do you lock your front door and shut your windows, I mean it won't stop a determined burglar will it?
Its just extra steps you take to protect your property, isn't it?

No, actually the alarm won't set with the door and window unlocked. We don't have alarms on pictures.........


User currently offlineCallMeCapt From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

I think we're all forgetting there is the other site, www.myaviation.net, which has no rejections. Personally, I don't mind if a photo gets rejected here, because I learn from it. There has been 2 photos I have taken which I dispute, but maybe I don't see something where a screener does.
It's all fine and appreciated that people go out to the airport and spend however many hours there taking photos in whatever weather only to have your photos rejected, BUT, if it gets rejected, learn from your rejection. Don't just delete the email and go out and take more photos using the same technique and same post processing hoping THIS time, they will get accepted.
Photos DO get accepted, and I can testify to this. The reason is I can testify to this is because my first upload and rejection was quite disgraceful and am very glad it has been deleted off the rejection database. That was 6 months ago. 2 weeks ago, I had 16 photos from 18 accepted. Today, I had 3 rejections with 2 in second screening. Closely looked at the photos and saw where I went wrong. Not bragging, just pointing out that if you want to get your photos accepted here, expect rejections and hope for acceptances. It's not a personal attack.
Just my $0.02.



Without struggle, there is no progress. (Frederick Douglass)
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Quoting CallMeCapt (Reply 21):
just pointing out that if you want to get your photos accepted here, expect rejections and hope for acceptances.

If you want acceptances....Learn what gets them. Hope does nothing, experience and knowledge is the key. The more you have of both the better off you will be.


User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

Well the Continental 737 was rejected as badquality on appeal, if anyone can point out exactly what is badquality about it I would love to know.

And the Corsair was also rejected as badquality and badcentered

Although this pic:

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Andreas Barowski


Seems to be adequately centered (Not sure about the horizon though)

If that Continental shot is badquality then I'm not really sure how much better I am supposed to make a shot look!



AirTeamImages
User currently offlineCallMeCapt From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 22):
Hope does nothing

For some people.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 22):
experience and knowledge is the key

Agree with you on this, though.



Without struggle, there is no progress. (Frederick Douglass)
25 BigPhilNYC : I wanna say that the original Continental shot is gorgeous.
26 Post contains images SnowJ : Can't argue with that.
27 CallMeCapt : Just had a look at the original continental. Maybe it's my screen, most of the aircraft looks good, but some parts look soft. Engines, tail and elevat
28 Post contains links and images Tommy Mogren : Jeff, you are entitled to your opinion, and maybe I am taking it seriously. Too seriously even ? Well, maybe...depends on how you look at it. I have
29 Post contains images Fergulmcc : Including these two... Fergul
30 Atco : Thanks Tommy, Fergul Actually maybe my last 500 or so + shots have exactly the same copyright logo, applied in exactly the same way (PS Action), so wh
31 Post contains images SnowJ : Granted, but there's very little effort involved in that, where it's a site where there are no rejections. No offense to anyone that uploads there, b
32 Post contains images CallMeCapt : If they are rejections that you don't agree with or can't see what the problem is, post the rejection up here and see what kind of feedback you get.
33 Post contains images SnowJ : Touché, my friend...touché!  [Edited 2005-07-01 18:49:37]
34 J32driver : Been hanging around this site for about 6 years now. In that time, it seems that the database just keeps getting more and more boring. It seems like t
35 Tommy Mogren : True, I wish more artistic shots were allowed..... Tommy Mogren
36 Post contains links and images Dehowie : Interesting observation about whats gradually happening. I was looking through the best shots of all time list and would have to say that the majority
37 Post contains images SnowJ : That's a very good point, Darren. I'm afraid that if anyone tried to upload something like what's in the top list now, they'd be rejected for badunint
38 JeffM : That's what an underachiever might say. Perfection should be demanded, why settle for less? The bar may have been raised an inch...but it's still eas
39 Post contains links and images Javibi : IMHO you are missing the point here, it is not perfection A.net is after, they are looking for photos that comply with certain rules which, my opinio
40 Dendrobatid : Quoting from a rejection message...I did not have to look too hard to find one.... Don't worry, everyone has their photos rejected from time to time.
41 Post contains images Javibi : ...which is an absolute pity, because it seems WE ALL do not look at pictures with open minds anymore, but instead look for the most minor issues (Lo
42 Dendrobatid : I totally agree, totally. The photograph to which I refer, is magnificent but the instant I even glanced at it as a thumbnail, it glared at me. I lov
43 Post contains images Atco : It's in the process of being re-worked Mick. I have just got a new PC and am moving everything from the old one so its taking a little time, but I agr
44 Dendrobatid : Garry I feel awful saying what I have said and must re-iterate that I really like your photos. That one is a beauty ! Had I have been able to contact
45 Gmidy : None for seven.... welcome to my world..... :p
46 Javibi : Mick, when I wrote this: I was not referring to Garry's shot, it was supposed to be a generic comment, I apologize, English is not my mother language
47 PUnmuth@VIE : Nothing ironic here. One thing is the propsed idea of watermarks on the medium and large version of the photos in the database which might be intoduc
48 Post contains images Fergulmcc : But Peter, there are photos in the DB where you can see the photographer's copyright in the thumbnails. When did this rule come in? Fergul
49 Kaddyuk : But they arent visible, this topic has been here a number of days, this is the 49th reply and still gary hasn't had an official mention of why his ph
50 Post contains images PUnmuth@VIE : 1.) badpersonal: This is for the photographer only, hence the name personal otherwise it would be badpublic.   2.) we cant see the text the screener
51 Kaddyuk : Peter, i dont want to mean to come across as a bit of an ass... but if you read the original thread... Gary has highlighted that it was due to the cop
52 JBLUA320 : Sorry but that Continental shot is WONDERFUL! Im not an expert photographer, so I couldnt begin to see problems with the same eye you guy do- but real
53 Post contains images PUnmuth@VIE : They where rejected because of the copyright logo, although the wrong box was checked. One appeal was accepted (funny those things are never mentione
54 Post contains images StealthZ : Hey Peter, to put up with some of the c%$p that get's thrown at you guys & gals here you must be just a little bit!!!! I mean you get all this abuse
55 Atco : Hello Peter, Please read reply 11 (you will find my thanks for the accepted appeal) I'm afraid I cannot agree about the explanation about the badcopyr
56 Kaddyuk : At times gary, it feels like you are talking to a brick wall... **sigh**
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