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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

Not sure if they'll quite meet the quality standards of the database (particularly the first one) but I do want to upload:

http://rockymountainavphotos.com/Eric/image_assistance/N552TCholdingshortAPA.jpg

http://rockymountainavphotos.com/Eric/image_assistance/N712JCparkedTACAPA.jpg

Thoughts?

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User currently offlinePaulianer From Germany, joined Jul 2002, 875 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1338 times:

I really like the first one, but its a bit "badcentered" for my taste... too much dead space on the right... Try a different crop. I'm not sure but can still suffer as badmotive... Maybe a screener can give it a go Big grin

The 2nd one looks nice, too  bigthumbsup 

Just my 2 ct

Cheers
Tobi



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

Quoting Paulianer (Reply 1):
I really like the first one, but its a bit "badcentered" for my taste.

Eric asking for advice  confused  The man himself!!? Big grin

Eric I like the first one mate, but agree a bit off center but I would have thought above not to the right.

Take care

Fergul Big grin  sun 



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5697 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1322 times:
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Quote:
Eric asking for advice The man himself!!?

Must be seeking some attention..  biggrin 

Eric, Am going with the 1st one but I think it needs a little tighter crop (top & right).. but that's just me!

Cheers

Chris



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User currently onlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1311 times:
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Hi Eric,

I have to say that I really like both shots - you have captured the beautiful lighting really well.

I would agree with both Tobi and Fergul about the cropping on the first. For me the photo is slightly unbalanced as it is, with too much space on the right. But to crop that out and balance with the left, you could also take a bit off the top too to preserve the aspect ratio. I think that will work really well.

I love the second one too - something about mountains in shots always tends to get my right finger clicking. I really hope that would not be assessed as too dark.

Good luck with them.

Paul


User currently offlineCallMeCapt From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

LOL, eric, losing your touch? Asking for advice.
 Wink
Just kidding.
1st one is great, echoing the other comments by saying you need a tighter crop. 2nd one, I wouldn't upload it. But that's me. Nice lighting, quality, etc...but it's backlit.



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1292 times:

Quoting Paulianer (Reply 1):
too much dead space on the right

Looking at it again in more detail I agree with Tobi, too much dead space on the right. Crop a bit more to the left and down.
Like Paul said, you've captured the light really well in the first shot, It's a cracking shot mate  bigthumbsup 

Well done

Fergul Big grin  sun 



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1281 times:

Ok are you guys absolutely certain I should crop the 1st shot? I too thought about doing another crop but for some reason having it dead-centered didn't really do much for me. The way it is now the fuselage (just the fuse, not the engine included) is pretty dead centered horizontally, and something about that stabilizer fin filling up the above space kinda balanced the shot really well for me. Perhaps I should do another crop then show you guys?

User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 7):
Ok are you guys absolutely certain I should crop the 1st shot?

I am Eric, if you take the distance from the engine to the edge and the nose to the edge, looks off to me mate, also the body is too low. Because you have cut the tail off it no longer has a role in centering, to me anyway, and now the body looks low.

Hope that helps.

Fergul Big grin

Still a cracking shot mate  bouncy 



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

Here's take 2

http://rockymountainavphotos.com/Eric/image_assistance/N552TCtake2.jpg

Thoughts?

If you look in the number 2 engine, you can see the setting sun... how's that for a hit-grabbing comment?  Silly

[Edited 2005-07-07 15:22:07]

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1243 times:

I like number 2 better, but it is just a tad to dark imo. Number one is a pretty shot but seems like a very unflattering angle for that plane. It just seems awkward to me. I would have liked less of an oblique, but not quite a side on...

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

Number 2 as in the Citation X or as in the Citation 5?

User currently offlineJ32driver From United States of America, joined May 2000, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

Opinions... just like...well... you know!

I love both photos. The originals at the top of the post are best in my opinon.

When you crop in tighter on the Citation 5 the picture starts to feel cramped to me. The original has about the same amount of space from the nose to the right side of the frame as it does from the rear tip of the fuselage to the left of the frame. Yep... the original definitely "feels" better to me.

[Edited 2005-07-07 16:54:41]

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1184 times:

Of those two cessna citation 5 shots, my gut is telling me to go with the first crop, but I like the 2nd one as well. Long story short, I'm really confused.

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

Number 2!

Matt

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User currently onlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1175 times:
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Well I'm looking again and I still love both shots.

I am starting to doubt my initial view about that first image, but I think what you lose on looking a bit 'cramped' is gained by reducing any rejection for that factor. I agree that the angle could be better, but I also think the lighting - and the setting sun - makes up for such imperfections. I hope it is not considered too 'artistic'.

I know if they were my shots I would be uploading them both and to hell with the consequences. Shots like this are too good - and viewer friendly - not to upload for fear of a rejection.

Go for it and good luck.

Paul


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 15):
Go for it and good luck.

As soon as some upload slots free up Big grin


User currently offlineYanqui67 From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2005, 508 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1150 times:

The second one is a Citation X. That is the fastest business jet in the world. Look at those huge MD-90 looking engines. I love the second picture. The first one needs some cropping.
Gus Anaya


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