Paulianer From Germany, joined Jul 2002, 875 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
I really like the first one, but its a bit "badcentered" for my taste... too much dead space on the right... Try a different crop. I'm not sure but can still suffer as badmotive... Maybe a screener can give it a go
The 2nd one looks nice, too
Just my 2 ct
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Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3010 posts, RR: 59 Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1233 times:
I have to say that I really like both shots - you have captured the beautiful lighting really well.
I would agree with both Tobi and Fergul about the cropping on the first. For me the photo is slightly unbalanced as it is, with too much space on the right. But to crop that out and balance with the left, you could also take a bit off the top too to preserve the aspect ratio. I think that will work really well.
I love the second one too - something about mountains in shots always tends to get my right finger clicking. I really hope that would not be assessed as too dark.
Looking at it again in more detail I agree with Tobi, too much dead space on the right. Crop a bit more to the left and down.
Like Paul said, you've captured the light really well in the first shot, It's a cracking shot mate
DLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1203 times:
Ok are you guys absolutely certain I should crop the 1st shot? I too thought about doing another crop but for some reason having it dead-centered didn't really do much for me. The way it is now the fuselage (just the fuse, not the engine included) is pretty dead centered horizontally, and something about that stabilizer fin filling up the above space kinda balanced the shot really well for me. Perhaps I should do another crop then show you guys?
Fergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 54 Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1190 times:
Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 7): Ok are you guys absolutely certain I should crop the 1st shot?
I am Eric, if you take the distance from the engine to the edge and the nose to the edge, looks off to me mate, also the body is too low. Because you have cut the tail off it no longer has a role in centering, to me anyway, and now the body looks low.
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52 Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1165 times:
I like number 2 better, but it is just a tad to dark imo. Number one is a pretty shot but seems like a very unflattering angle for that plane. It just seems awkward to me. I would have liked less of an oblique, but not quite a side on...
J32driver From United States of America, joined May 2000, 399 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1147 times:
Opinions... just like...well... you know!
I love both photos. The originals at the top of the post are best in my opinon.
When you crop in tighter on the Citation 5 the picture starts to feel cramped to me. The original has about the same amount of space from the nose to the right side of the frame as it does from the rear tip of the fuselage to the left of the frame. Yep... the original definitely "feels" better to me.
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3010 posts, RR: 59 Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1097 times:
Well I'm looking again and I still love both shots.
I am starting to doubt my initial view about that first image, but I think what you lose on looking a bit 'cramped' is gained by reducing any rejection for that factor. I agree that the angle could be better, but I also think the lighting - and the setting sun - makes up for such imperfections. I hope it is not considered too 'artistic'.
I know if they were my shots I would be uploading them both and to hell with the consequences. Shots like this are too good - and viewer friendly - not to upload for fear of a rejection.