Whilst I understand the reason for rejection when the whole aircraft is shown, I am less certain as to what to do to correct the photo when only a portion is present. Assuming that the screener wanted less space at the bootom and left side I have recropped to this.
UA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 968 times:
Your shots are coming up at not vaild. You can look here for the rejected photo(s).
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 2968 posts, RR: 60 Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 900 times:
Malcolm,
As the other say, it is not possible to see the relevant photos.
Ryan - I would have thought that Jeff's comment about the engine would result in a badmotive rejection, not badcentred. I can only assume that the screener had a problem with the amount of gap between the edge of the photo and the nose on the left and the APU at the back on the right. If so, a tough call.
Ryangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 25 Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 814 times:
Jeffm
fair point about the starboard engine however the aircraft is dead central, is this badcentre or badmotiv?
Has the rule been changed if so no problem but there are many shots on DB that are cropped in the same manner as this one.
DC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1405 posts, RR: 16 Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 776 times:
Hi Malcolm,
That's a new one on me! - an aircraft overshooting into a corn field.
There's something about the shot that's making me want to see more of the aircraft that's cut off on the right. Also the top of the propeller being cut off might have been frowned upon in such a shot.
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 769 times:
Quoting Malandan (Reply 16): This is the rejected photo, rejected for badcentred. What do you advise?
Whilst easily rectifiable errors should of course be corrected, significant corrections are not always possible as the original image may not be sufficient to allow that. My personal belief is that sometimes the subject is intrinsically more valuable than the composition. Sadly my view isn't always reflected here, so probably the best option is to upload it somewhere else.
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 2968 posts, RR: 60 Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 737 times:
Thanks for finding a way of letting us see the image Malcolm.
My first impression when viewing the photo was pretty much in line with Tim's. The fact that you have chosen to take the photo in 'portrait' mode rather 'forces' the propeller and front of the nose to become a central aspect of the motive and to have the top of it cropped off leaves it more awkward in my mind than if the photo had been in landscape. Then, the overall fuselage would have been more the subject than just the nose, and I reckon the cropping of the propeller would have 'felt' better. The way it is now may legitimately leave the criticism that the nose is off to the left too much. (Having said this, many would argue that the focus of the subject does not need to be fully centred for it to make a good photograph - e.g. the rule of thirds.)
But still, if it is the propeller that is the issue for the screener, I would have thought this would have attracted a badmotive rejection rather than badcentred - similar to Ryan's image above.
Looking again at the photo, I feel a landscape crop would not have introduced this factor into the equation so much - though I wonder whether you feel this would detract from your attempt to focus the viewer on the nose and what can be seen there. Is it possible to recrop the original in such a way?
Fergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 54 Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 728 times:
Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 17): There's something about the shot that's making me want to see more of the aircraft that's cut off on the right. Also the top of the propeller being cut off might have been frowned upon in such a shot.
I would agree with this Malcolm. A landscape shot would have been better in my view.
Malandan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 380 posts, RR: 16 Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 716 times:
Paul, Tim & Fergul.
Thanks to each of you - comments much appreciated.
I don't think it possible to recrop to landscape without cutting out a large part of the subject and losing the effect of the 'field detour' on the front of the aircraft. This view is most of the original which I only adjusted the level slightly.
I took several other shots at the time the poor lady (no comments about female drivers please) suffered her indignity and another shot taken from the front of the aircraft, where only the wings are evenly cropped, may stand a better chance.
Maybe the subject is a bit 'too 'jokey' for the staid 'its not an airliner' crowd!
Gotta keep trying though!
Malcolm.
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