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Query For A Stange Badinfo/badcopyright Rejection.  
User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 14
Posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

Hey all,

I just had a LH 744 and Champion 727 rejected today for badinfo/badcopyright. That is a first for me. I had a personal message that read:

"N683CA71405.jpg name and copyright not the same?"

The only thing I can think it would be, is that I recently changed my display name to Danny Fritsche - Airplanespotters. Where it was just Danny Fritsche before. By the personal message with the ? at the end, I would say it was uncertainty by the screener? Not sure. I appealed explaining that I am thinking it was the name change. The copyright bar that these are displaying is my old one. But...after appealing them, its not showing I have photos in the appeal queue. Even right after I appealed them. I'm not sure they made it to the queue. Here are the 2 shots in question.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/DABTKLAX12205-2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/N683CA71405.jpg

Thanks,
Danny


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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

Did it say "Danny Fritsche - Airplanespotters" on the upload page?

Also, URLs aren't allowed in signatures  Smile

Tom


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

Nice pics by the way, especially the first  Smile


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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

Quoting Jaspike (Reply 1):
Also, URLs aren't allowed in signatures

Well that blows hard...

Danny,

I can't see this being the reason as I have had the same thing happen with no error, albeit a much slighter error but still no rejection.


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No space between my name but still got accepted. Regardless of if it is or isn't your name why would a screener care about the copyright bar? Clearly its the same name and same photographer..... I don't know anymore..... I'm going to sleep....zzzzzz

Take care,

Matt



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User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

Quoting Jaspike (Reply 1):
Did it say "Danny Fritsche - Airplanespotters" on the upload page?

To tell you the truth, I can't really remember. But since I was logged in, it should have displayed my name correctly, no?

Quoting Jaspike (Reply 1):
Also, URLs aren't allowed in signatures

I am aware of that. That's why there IS no URL in my signature. My display name is no different from the numerous others such as airteamimages, etc. I have photos up already bearing the "Danny Fritsche - Airplanespotters" so I don't see where the problem lies. Also, I put the 2 shots in the appeal queue, and they never showed up as being there on the photo stats page. I'm not sure if they ever made it. Hopefully a screener can chime in on that one. I feel like I got a raw deal on this one. Hopefully we can get it sorted out. I would have to get more rejections like this.

Thanks,
Danny



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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Aad sent me an email earlier saying that it could be because you changed your name after you uploaded the images, and the copyright bar wasn't changed. Aad said he has informed the screeners of this so if this is the problem, it shouldn't happen again.

Re. signature, I meant your forum signature - the place for URLs is the homepage field in your profile, you can edit it here.

Tom


User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

Ok...so it won't happen again? Can I appeal them? I hate to have my rejection rate go up because of a misunderstanding. I DID appeal them, but they never showed up in the queue.

Danny

[Edited 2005-07-25 15:32:35]


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User currently offlineSonic99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

Quoting Jaspike (Reply 5):
Aad said he has informed the screeners of this so if this is the problem, it shouldn't happen again.

Well, just happened to me! My airport overview pic was rejected because of a screen name change as well. Go figure. At this point I'm considering just not uploading anymore.  Sad


User currently offlineTZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2243 times:
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Quoting Fiveholer (Reply 6):
Ok...so it won't happen again? Can I appeal them? I hate to have my rejection rate go up because of a misunderstanding. I DID appeal them, but they never showed up in the queue.

Danny - the safest thing to do is to upload them again. That way the copyright bar will match and all will be ok. Make sure you put a note to screeners explaining why you've done that. Email us and we'll try to look at them faster than the usual queue length.

We've been rejecting images when photos in the queue do not match the photographer's name in the database because that is a classic evidence generated when people try to by-pass the upload-limits by using multiple IDs. That is not to say that it's irrefutable evidence, but leads us to be concerned.

A recent development on the site which we (screeners) were unaware of is the function for photographers to change their own names automatically. The heavy use of that feature has led to wide-spread mismatches in the photographers name between database and copyright bar.

Effectively we have lost one of our tools for detecting excessive multiple-uploaders, conversely photographers now have the ability to frequently re-name themselves.

From now on we'll give up checking that copyright bar, unless we see something outrageous.

Tamsin



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User currently offlineXpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 634 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 8):

A recent development on the site which we (screeners) were unaware of is the function for photographers to change their own names automatically. The heavy use of that feature has led to wide-spread mismatches in the photographers name between database and copyright bar.

I don't believe this is yet active...e-mails have to be sent to editors, no? I know it is a feature to come though.


User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Ok, thanks. I will re-upload and send an email. I thought something odd had happened.

Thanks,
Danny



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User currently offlineXpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 634 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 8):
We've been rejecting images when photos in the queue do not match the photographer's name in the database because that is a classic evidence generated when people try to by-pass the upload-limits by using multiple IDs. That is not to say that it's irrefutable evidence, but leads us to be concerned.

Can I ask how this is true? Here's why I say this...Let's say I upload my photos under Cameron Bowerman. My copyright will come out that way on the photo, but then I do a name change to Cameron Bowerman - Airplanespotters. Now, my older photos will say Cameron Bowerman that are in the queue still, but my name has been changed. Obviously, this is what happened above to Danny. Now, how is it so that this is a precaution for multiple id's? How in the world would a photo watermaked by a.net say Cameron Bowerman under the ID that was "changed" to Cameron Bowerman - Airplanespotters without it OBVIOUSLY being a name change? A.net makes those watermarks/copyrights on the photos, so I don't see how your point above is any bit valid.

Now, what do you propose I myself do? I have some photos just like Danny above that are in the queue, but I have had a name change since....what shall I do? The last thing I need is such a rejection hurting my acceptance rate.


User currently offlineTameteora From Netherlands, joined Oct 2004, 231 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2204 times:
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Quoting Xpfg (Reply 11):
I have some photos just like Danny above that are in the queue, but I have had a name change since....what shall I do?

I think Tamsin clearly answered your question:

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 8):
From now on we'll give up checking that copyright bar, unless we see something outrageous

Photos will no longer be rejected over this, so you are safe. You need to do nothing.

Aad.


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