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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5497 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

http://www.bhairlines.com

If you click our aircraft, 6 photos come up, with the copyright bar still on the bottom. Not sure if they asked permission, they might have, but I just wanted to give heads up.

Justin

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User currently offlineAIHTOURS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

I noticed that a few months ago. Though, as they are a quite a large Airline, I though they would have had permission to use them. Also, I wasn't so aware about the misuse of Photos then.

All will be revealed.

AIHTOURS

[Edited 2005-07-31 22:14:12]

User currently offlineTFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

One of them is a friend of mine, i will contact Stuart and ask him, i know he's not a member of these forums.

Lew


User currently offlineTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

We really need those watermarks.

Signed

The watermark proponents Big grin


User currently offlineSean377 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1225 posts, RR: 40
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

Check out the funky seat covers in the cockpit shot. How 70's are they?


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User currently offlineSpeedbirdEGJJ From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2784 times:

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 4):
Check out the funky seat covers in the cockpit shot. How 70's are they?

Indeed very retro, quite a modern airframe though, 1998 build!!


User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

Quoting TS (Reply 3):
We really need those watermarks.

Oh yes we do.

This is ridiculous.

Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineLennymuir From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 434 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

Re: Balkan.

Those photo's they are using, I reckon they did get permission.

They asked me, telling me that 'other photographers' in a.net had offered their images for free.
So they wanted free use.
I declined.

Gerry


User currently offlineVir380 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2002, 621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

Hi , have waited before i posted this .... they have used at least 2 of my images without my permission !

I have mailed them in the mean time ... which i guessed would be a waste of time as the email on the site is dead ...

so i emailed the webmaster and the offices in London ... and am still waiting for a response ( mailed them again today with warning )

if i get no joy by this time tomorrow ill phone them direct in London and Sofia ... i dont care if they come up with the " were a seperate office" *BS* they work for the airline therefore have contacts to pass the problem onto

Im not letting this one go , there are far to many of these people who think they can get owt for nowt !

ill keep you posted on any updates

regards Tony


User currently offlineEksath From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1300 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 2622 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
ARTICLE EDITOR

I,along with other on this website, believe the OPTIONAL watermark in a good location will protect the photographer inclined to use it.

Watermarks...an old idea but the time has come.

Eksath



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User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 2606 times:

Tony,

Maybe as payment they may offer you a flight on one of their nice and safe TU154's and a week at a 3* hotel in Bulgaria Big grin

Perhaps you should definatly push for the cash  rotfl 

Joking aside good luck all and let us know how you get on

Cheers

Ben Pritchard


User currently offlineTFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Hi All,

I just spoke with Staurt Prince, they did get his permission, but it took him ages to get anything for it, in the end they gave him a free flight on the Tu154 to Bulgaria, return for free.

Tony, i think you should push for the flight.. haha.

Cheers,

Lew


User currently offlineVir380 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2002, 621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

To be honest id go for a free flight .... wouldnt mind a go in the 154  Smile

however ... im going for the cash option as im away on a little jaunt in a shade over 4 weeks time ..

I have actualy got a response from the London office asking for details , so far so good ...

keep you all posted

regards Tony


User currently offlineVIR380 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2002, 621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

***UPDATE***

I am still waiting for a reply from BHAir regarding this situation ... i have had responses from the London offices but as for the HO ... Nothing !!!


So i am begining to think this Airline has no intention of replying or anything by the looks of it ... so ... i have taken advice with a solicitor and am waiting to see what they come up with ...

While this is happening has anyone got any contacts from previous theft or experience from BHAir ?

The email on the home page is none existent .. Surprise surprise .... Makes you wonder how they survive doesn't it ?

Regards Tony


User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

First of all: I'm all on the photographers' side here, so please don't get me wrong.

But I wonder if you can actually force an airline to stop using photos of their own airliners on their own website. Or if you can, could not the airline, on the other hand, force you to stop offering them commercially on a site like this without their permission?

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to imply anything here, and I would definitely appreciate if the photographers would be properly compensated for their good work. I just wonder about the legal background. Does the photographer really own the copyright of his photo, even if it shows objects that are again themselves copyrighted (like airline liveries etc.)?


User currently offlineLennymuir From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 434 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

To ZakHH.. The copyright belongs to the photographer.
It's been discussed many times and the position is crystal clear.

To Tony: I recall it was a commercial director that was hawking for
easy photographs a couple of years ago. Free flights was an 'option' but only on his terms. I was not in a position to chose my 'out' and 'return' dates on their nice 154's, so nothing happened.

If I still had his old e-mail addy, I'd pass it on to you, but I've had a PC
crash since, so i've lost it.  gnasher 

Gerry


User currently offlineMygind66 From Spain, joined May 2004, 1058 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Quoting Lennymuir (Reply 7):
So they wanted free use

And they don't charge you for a flight ticket?  fight 

Enrique


User currently offlineLennymuir From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 434 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Yep, Enrique...

Aah! I found him in an old PC Tony, check your 'other' e-mail inbox.  checkmark 

Gerry


User currently offlineRyan h From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1544 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

I would think allowing them to use your photo and getting a free flight is a good deal.


South Australian Spotter
User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

It would if they didn't use a TU154!!

3* hotel? Doubt it. If they have a 0.5* a/c then the hotel will probably be alike Big grin



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