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User currently offlineSoundtrack From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 284 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4814 times:

Just curious if anyone knows about spotting or photographing at Rio De Janeiro's airports?

Plse advise

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User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4801 times:

No joke...go to Sugarloaf Mountain and you'll get great shots of aircraft departing SDU (Santos Dumont Airport). Here's a pic I took of a Rio Sul 737 as it departed and went around the mountain.


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3008 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

I second that. Ride the cable car up in the late afternoon, grab a cold guarana, and watch the planes take off from SDU as the sun sets over the city. Incredible!


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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8977 posts, RR: 39
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4787 times:

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As you can see, not a lot of words needed!

And that's from Planes coming in/out of SDU only. GIG is the international airport.

Cheers,
PPVRA

[Edited 2005-07-26 06:01:46]


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User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4727 times:

And to add to that, the air conditioned restaraunt at SDU which overlooks the runway does the best peppered steak I have ever tasted!

When I was in Rio a few years ago I stayed at GIG in the terminal hotel. We usually did GIG in the morning (when it's busiest), touristy things in the afternoon and SDU for the evening rush hour. We never had any problems.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4728 times:

This is my favourite photo...landing in SDU is just amazing!


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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4686 times:
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@ GIG you have some good places at Ilha do Governador. @ SDU as already posted, there are a lot of places any none will interrupt you. Police protection is effective closer to SDU, on Sugar Loaf or on the street where you can reach the Naval School. Another good place is the top of "Torre Rio Sul", the tallest Rio's building.
For GIG, i will ask for some comments from our friend and photographer B. Andrade.

Felipe



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4662 times:

I was in Rio last year and my wife had to drag me away from the top of the sugarloaf, it was awesome. It is mostly 737 aircraft though. You will have to go to GIG to see more of a variety.

User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

Another great view is from the high-speed ferry/boat that runs from Rio to Niteroi! (takes about 30min I think). I made this trip a couple of times and the airport views from the ferry/boat are excellent; the ferry moors in an area close to the airport and a better view is almost impossible!

Btw, beware that SDU is under reconstruction so I dont know whether the terrace is still open. Anyone knows whether the new SDU terminal will have an open air terrace?

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 4589 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 8):
Btw, beware that SDU is under reconstruction so I dont know whether the terrace is still open. Anyone knows whether the new SDU terminal will have an open air terrace?

In fact the new terminal will be build in front of the parking area (which will be relocated and improved). The view will be not the same, but Infraero will grant us with all-glass terminal where, because they will use gates, users could keep a Fanstastic view of the patio, the sugar loaf and Guanabara Bay.

Can you imagine that... a better view !

See the Link on Infraero Website
http://www.infraero.gov.br/link_gera.php?lgi=85&menuid=aero
(Portuguese)
"Not available in English"


Regards,
Felipe



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 4):
When I was in Rio a few years ago I stayed at GIG in the terminal hotel.

I stayed there a few weeks ago. Blast from the past! Back in the 60s. Slightly overpriced at R$178, but convenient though.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
Police protection is effective closer to SDU, on Sugar Loaf or on the street where you can reach the Naval School

That would have to be a major consideration! Yesterday I took a hotel shuttle from Copacabana to GIG, and near the bus terminal in a traffic jam I witnessed a carjacking. It's a violent place, beautiful as it is, and I felt uncomfortable showing my "cheapish" EUR300 camera in public. As real spotter gear will cost much more, I really don't know how those guys whose pics are shown above managed not to have their gear stolen from them. Yes, Pao de Açucar is fine, but out in the open... well...

BTW to take (most of) the pics shown above you'd need a 500mm lens at least.



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 10):
Yes, Pao de Açucar is fine, but out in the open... well...

I hardly think that anyone would buy a ticket to ride the cable car to the top of the mountain so that they could rob you of your camera and wait in line and descend the mountain via the cable car again. That will not happen.

As for spotting in Rio, I agree with the others. The view of SDU from the top of Pao De Acucar is great. Almost all 737's though, and a few TAM Airbus jets. Flying into SDU is an awesome experience.

Aloha,
HALFA



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User currently offline123 From Bolivia, joined Nov 2003, 747 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

You can deffinitively do some non-aviation "jet" spotting in Copacabana and Ipanema  Smile

User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4503 times:

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 10):
It's a violent place, beautiful as it is

I go on holidays to Rio every single year (at least twice a year)...never experienced any violence or crime. Most of the times I go with foreign friends and they always carry their cameras around. Maybe I'm lucky.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 10):
Slightly overpriced at R$178, but convenient though.

The hotel rate of GIG Hotel is very reasonable. It would be very hard for you to find a hotel of the same level for less than that in Ipanema, for example.

Rgs,


User currently offlineTittlemouse From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 40 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

Quoting 123 (Reply 12):
You can deffinitively do some non-aviation "jet" spotting in Copacabana and Ipanema

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Tittlemouse  wave 



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 4470 times:
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Quoting 123 (Reply 12):
You can deffinitively do some non-aviation "jet" spotting in Copacabana and Ipanema

Yes! Specially on some bars like Barril 1800 and others in front of Ipanema / Leblom beach. In fact the bar is a "Control Tower" and the runways is just in from of you... you will see Airbus 3500 and Boeing 7777. Perfect size for the market (body), economic (in clothes), very beautiful livery (face) and a fantastic service (smile)

That's why i love my city !  Smile


Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 10):
That would have to be a major consideration! Yesterday I took a hotel shuttle from Copacabana to GIG, and near the bus terminal in a traffic jam I witnessed a carjacking. It's a violent place, beautiful as it is, and I felt uncomfortable showing my "cheapish" EUR300 camera in public. As real spotter gear will cost much more, I really don't know how those guys whose pics are shown above managed not to have their gear stolen from them. Yes, Pao de Açucar is fine, but out in the open... well...

I'm sorry in the name of my city for the situation you faced. Be informed that it's something not usual on Touristic Areas. Police Protection and the feeling of protection is very high. I use to visit Sugar Loaf, Corcovado, Paineiras, Beaches like "Prainha" (more distant from Ipanema), places like Saint Tereza, and in 30 years of Rio, never hapen to me. Rio is unsafe on same north areas, but during the day is Ok. I can't imagine not to carry my bag/camera on Urca (where is the Sugar Loaf) and that's not only for the fact that it's a very calm place, it's surrounded by Militar Areas and in fact, Sugar Loaf is inside Army Area (and they are the oficial police there) and you will look and find at least 5 to 15 Soldiers taking care of the area, and could add some Tourist Police Officers. The Transit Hotel for Army Officials in Rio is there, also the two fortifications that protects Rio behind 1550-1675, now Army and Marines Area.
Rio Tourist Zone is protected by 14,000 policemans with 750,000 people.

Next time you visit Rio, i invite you for a Land Rover Cruise on Tijuca Forest. Something fascinating with a fantastic overview of the city.

Regards,
Felipe



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4425 times:

Quoting HALFA (Reply 11):
hardly think that anyone would buy a ticket to ride the cable car to the top of the mountain so that they could rob you of your camera and wait in line and descend the mountain via the cable car again. That will not happen.

I should have expressed myself more clearly, I meant the same, in that Pao de Açucar is absolutely safe. Also heavily policed Centro (during office hours), and Urca - that was my favourite bit of Rio. I did see a mugging right in front of my Copacabana hotel though...

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 13):
The hotel rate of GIG Hotel is very reasonable. It would be very hard for you to find a hotel of the same level for less than that in Ipanema, for example

I agree that it'd be hard to find something for that price in Ipanema (although I got a R$140 room right at Copacabana, not bad at all). But this airport hotel, have you seen the rooms? Maybe 8m2 only, and no windows! But convenient for layovers (or spotters).

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 15):
Rio Tourist Zone is protected by 14,000 policemans

I noticed, I was glad they were there! I did have a fine time in Rio - apart from one bad hangover  Smile

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 15):
Next time you visit Rio, i invite you for a Land Rover Cruise on Tijuca Forest. Something fascinating with a fantastic overview of the city.

Thanks a lot! I'd love to do that, as I haven't had the time to go Tijuca. I did go to other places and Brazil really has some of the most beautiful sites on the planet! (And more, re: Ipanema  Wink)



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 15):
Next time you visit Rio, i invite you for a Land Rover Cruise on Tijuca Forest. Something fascinating with a fantastic overview of the city.

May I consider myself invited as well?  Wink

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
I agree that it'd be hard to find something for that price in Ipanema (although I got a R$140 room right at Copacabana, not bad at all).

You got a good deal in Copa. Rio and Ipanema are notorious for the most expensive hotel rates in Brazil.... Sad If you go to NE Brazil hotel rates are about half the rate of Rio.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
). But this airport hotel, have you seen the rooms? Maybe 8m2 only, and no windows! But convenient for layovers (or spotters).

I have a report regarding the GIG Hotel (Luxor chain I think) from a work colleague. He had positive remarks about the hotel but also mentioned that rooms were really small (since he is Japanese no complains!  Smile But the airport hotel makes things much easier because a return taxi to airport-zona sul would cost about R$100. If you have a connecting fight early in the morning next day the hotel can be very practical.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
And more, re: Ipanema

I love Ipanema...it has the most beautiful airplanes on earth per m2... Wink

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4394 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
May I consider myself invited as well?

Of course my friend! You're my guest !

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
You got a good deal in Copa. Rio and Ipanema are notorious for the most expensive hotel rates in Brazil.... If you go to NE Brazil hotel rates are about half the rate of Rio.

I know some agencies in Rio that probably could get a better rate for Ipanema Hotels. The problem is that Ipanema has few hotels and high demand. The best Accor hotel in Brazil (and 70% are in Sao Paulo) is Sofitel Rio de Janeiro. Marriot Rio is also the top, Pestana, Meridien, Othon ... all have very huge numbers & profits. I'd never saw any one changing chain in Rio. The problem is the lack of space for new hotels in Copa, Ipanema and Leblom. There's an old project that turns part of Copacabana Fort into a Hotel Area for 6 to 10 different buildings with at least 2,500 suites.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
and Urca - that was my favourite bit of Rio.

My family is looking for some place to live in Urca since the end of 2004, and it's very hard to find, none want to sell ! I love that "screen": Guanabara Bay, SDU, Sugar Loaf and the most calm place in the entire city.


Hope to see all in Rio soonest

Felipe



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4383 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
The best Accor hotel in Brazil (and 70% are in Sao Paulo) is Sofitel Rio de Janeiro. Marriot Rio is also the top, Pestana, Meridien, Othon ...

Note that all of them are in Copacabana!

Ipanema has a serious problems with hotels since there is virtually NO free space for construction which therefore leads to very high hotel rates. I think Ipanema/Leblon has the most expensive hotels rates in the entire of Brazil (especially if you take into account what you pay and what you get). The only major international chains in Ipanema/Leblon are Golden Tulip (which is a new development) and Caesar Park (correct?) while Copacabana has plenty of major hotels chains as you indicated...this is a big puzzle for me....it must be related to scarcety of land and extremely high prices of real state, not to mention that real estate prices in Ipanema are dollarised (US dollar equivalent) because of the high influx of foreign tourists and expats...

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 4357 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
Ipanema has a serious problems with hotels since there is virtually NO free space for construction which therefore leads to very high hotel rates. I think Ipanema/Leblon has the most expensive hotels rates in the entire of Brazil (especially if you take into account what you pay and what you get). The only major international chains in Ipanema/Leblon are Golden Tulip (which is a new development) and Caesar Park (correct?) while Copacabana has plenty of major hotels chains as you indicated...this is a big puzzle for me....it must be related to scarcety of land and extremely high prices of real state, not to mention that real estate prices in Ipanema are dollarised (US dollar equivalent) because of the high influx of foreign tourists and expats...

You're right about Ipanema, also Copacabana is three times bigger than Ipanema where there are no land available for new hotels . Caesar and Golden Tulip are the only, plus about 10 hotels from non famous chains (all very expensive).

Rgds
Felipe



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
I have a report regarding the GIG Hotel (Luxor chain I think) from a work colleague

That explains it! I didn't stay in the Luxor, but in the "Pousada Hotel" inside the old part of the terminal. I checked the Luxor, but it cost much more.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
Marriot Rio is also the top, Pestana, Meridien, Othon ... all have very huge numbers & profits.

I stayed in one of the Othons (the Olinda). Nice place!

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
I love that "screen": Guanabara Bay, SDU, Sugar Loaf and the most calm place in the entire city.

The view on SDU was great. I've never seen a plane climbing at the same altitude (or below) that I was standing at, together with other people, a few trees and a cable car station  Smile



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 4309 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 20):
Caesar and Golden Tulip are the only, plus about 10 hotels from non famous chains (all very expensive).

Lipe: we forgot the Best Western (Sol Ipanema) and, of course, the Sheratton (which is at the end of Leblon and has a private beach) on the road towards Barra, overlooking Ipanema.


Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 21):
but in the "Pousada Hotel" inside the old part of the terminal

Interesting, I did not know that there was another hotel at the old terminal...

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 20):
also Copacabana is three times bigger than Ipanema

Copa is much more known with foreign tourists than Ipanema...(btw, in your list of hotels in Copa you forgot the most well known one: Copacabana Palace, which is part of the chain Leading Hotels of the World).

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4274 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 22):
Copa is much more known with foreign tourists than Ipanema...(btw, in your list of hotels in Copa you forgot the most well known one: Copacabana Palace, which is part of the chain Leading Hotels of the World).

Hardi, in fact i never forget "O Copa" (like we say in Rio) just because it's a First Level Hotel, Top of the Top and keep with a King Service. Building is amazing, service is fantastic and the atmosphere there, looks fantastic. But you're right on your comment. Sorry for that.


Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 22):
Lipe: we forgot the Best Western (Sol Ipanema) and, of course, the Sheratton (which is at the end of Leblon and has a private beach) on the road towards Barra, overlooking Ipanema.

Right again. Also, Barra da Tijuca with a new Sheraton (the second in Rio) and some new developments is a new tourist frontier (and most of Pan American Games will take place there)

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 21):
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
Marriot Rio is also the top, Pestana, Meridien, Othon ... all have very huge numbers & profits.

I stayed in one of the Othons (the Olinda). Nice place!

Othon Family and Hotels are friendly and with reasonable fares. They start to lift their top hotel, Othon Palace in the End of Copacabana Beach, very close to "Posto 6"

Good news for Rio: Tam will start a new service GIG-IGU @ about 10/11 am with return about 6/7 PM. It's the first JJ flight from Rio to South without stop in CPQ/GRU/CGH. Also this flight will be operated REC-SSA-GIG-IGU, improving service to northeast too. The very first signal from JJ that GIG one day could become more important to them.

Regards,
Felipe



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 23):
They start to lift their top hotel, Othon Palace in the End of Copacabana Beach, very close to "Posto 6"

Bom Dia Felipe,

What do you mean by this? To "lift their top hotel"? Are they remodeling? Raising the building? I stayed at this hotel 3 years ago and it is in great need of renovation but the service and staff were top notch and the views of Copacabana Beach from my room on the 28th floor were the best of all hotels I have stayed at in Rio.
Since that visit, I have stayed at the Sofitel, Marriott, and Arpoador Inn which was a great location and good value.
Now when I visit your city, I stay in an apartment in Posto 6, and watch the planes leaving SDU for CGH.

Ciao!
HALFA



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25 OHLHD : Soundtrack: great thread!!! As my holidays are slowly approaching I was about to start the same thread as I will be in Rio for 2 weeks in Nov. (Act my
26 Hardiwv : Indeed, they cannot hide the fact that in the first semester of 2005 GIG had an amazing pax traffic growth of 68% (while for the same period overall
27 OHLHD : Yes AF (maybe KL to HAV but don´t know yet) HAV-EZE will be CU and this flight is a IL 62!!!. EZE-GIG either JJ or RG or maybe by bus. I have until
28 Post contains images HALFA : That is good news. They are both in need of renovation along with a few other Othon Hotels there. Will the hotel (Othon Palace) still be in operation
29 Post contains links Hardiwv : GOL has excellent fares for this route: Yes, the renovation will be gradual, I think in a floor-by-floor basis, so while some floors will be closed o
30 BuyantUkhaa : Interesting, so it'll compete head-on with the RG flight. I took that RG flight some weeks ago, and instead of one 757-operated flight as my ticket m
31 Post contains images LipeGIG : Like Hardi said, Othon will keep the service at Othon. Also, they have realocated Othon Fortaleza from a old building to a very modern one (previous
32 LipeGIG : Be my guess for a chopp at Ipanema Beach ! Please send me a message at time of your travel. It will be a pleasure. With the code-share AF/DL/G3 (and
33 Post contains images OHLHD : Thx, I will definitly drop you a note, before leaving for GIG. I will try my best to post it!!
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