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User currently offlineMarkJbeckwith From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 156 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

Hi all;

I have some pictures in the queue that are the results of some rejection feedback and reading a great deal on this board (including some of the workflows posted). I'd appreciate any comments on whether my photography and processing has reached a good enough level to produce images of ANet quality.

Here's some samples from the queue;

First

Second

Third

Fourth

As I said, I'm new at this and would like some advice on how to get better - plus I don't want to waste any more of the screener's time  pray 

Thanks for all comments.

Mark.


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User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3779 times:

Well I'm no screener....but why the odd sizes. Are you using a widescreen monitor or something?

I'd make them 1024 wide

No.1 needs ccw rotation?

regards

[Edited 2005-08-04 22:45:11]


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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3766 times:

As a newbie, these are very good shots. The only criticism I can find is that they are a tab bit over saturated, the colours are just that little bit over enhanced in my book. As for the level of No.1, I would have to disagree with John I think it looks ok. Your sizes are ok too as there a few photographers who upload at 1200*800 but I personaly prefer 1024*683. The larger the size you upload the greater the risk of a rejection for bad quality.

Hope that helps

Take care

Fergul Big grin  sun 



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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3043 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3755 times:
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Hi Mark - welcome to the Forum.

I would agree that these are all really good shots for someone new to this. I think they all have a good chance of success.

There are certainly no 'fatal' flaws with any of them that I can see. I would echo the view above that you will maximise you chances of reaching the high quality standards required by uploading at 1024 x 683 size. But even at the larger size, the quality looks good to me. Unlike Fergul, I generally like the level of colour saturation that you have in the photos.

I would be interested to know how you have sharpened the shots - for example, I think photo 4 might be improved at the smaller size, as this should enhance the sharpness of the image.

If you would like to discuss any issues further do feel free to email me.

All the best, and good luck with the uploads.

Paul


User currently offlineMarkJBeckwith From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 156 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

Thanks for the words of encouragement guys.

Quoting Johndm1957 (Reply 1):
Are you using a widescreen monitor or something?

John;
Yes, I have a wide screen but I think I will reduce the size down to 1024 for future shots as I need all the advantage I can get!  Smile

Quoting Psych (Reply 3):
I would be interested to know how you have sharpened the shots

Psych:
I used this workflow; http://rockymountainavphotos.com/Eric/workflow.html pretty much to the letter. Thanks for your offer of correspondence - you don't know what you've let yourself in for.  Cool

Would you all say the pictures are worth leaving in the queue?

Mark.



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User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

Hi Mark,

Nice shots, they look ok to me as well. Out of curiosity, what kind of equipment do you use?

Ivan



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User currently offlineMarkJBeckwith From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 156 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3693 times:

Thanks Ivan.

Quoting Fly747 (Reply 5):
what kind of equipment do you use?

I use a Rebel XT with a 75/300 III USM.

I see you're in Edmonton - I'm travelling there next week and was thinking about taking my camera. Are there good opportunities to shoot at YEG?

Cheers!

Mark.



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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3691 times:

I only use 1200*800 when I its next to impossible to make up the lost space when trying 1024*____.


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Don't click if you don't want to. I'm not a big fan of plugging but I am also a big fan of 1200*800 when needed.

Take care and I hope that helps you,

Matt



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User currently offlineBubbles From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1193 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3688 times:

Quoting MarkJBeckwith (Reply 6):
a Rebel XT with a 75/300 III USM

 cheerful  Same as my equipment!  cheerful  And very nice shots!  wave 

_Hongyin_


User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3675 times:

Hi Mark,

Rebel XT rules Big grin There's a few good spots around YEG but there's not much variety. Mostly WJ 737s and AC Buses and small regional aircraft. There are weekly charters by Martinair and Air Transat to Europe. I try to make the most of it though. You can also shoot from the old terminal, I have a couple of shots from there in the database. I could show you around but I'll be out of town next week. If you want more info you can email me through my profile.

Ivan



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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3043 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3657 times:
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Quoting MarkJBeckwith (Reply 4):
Thanks for your offer of correspondence - you don't know what you've let yourself in for.

It was meant Mark - go for it.

As to your question - I think they are all worthy of leaving in the queue, though in your position I would re-edit the originals at 1024 size and just check that this doesn't lead to a notable increase in quality. If so I would then swap them. As I said, though I do not think any of the 4 are actually soft to a major degree, my hunch is that the same USM settings will make them appear just that bit sharper at the smaller size.

When I began uploading I started at 1600 pixels wide, because I misunderstood the upload advice and did not have much experience reading the Forum. No wonder getting acceptances was a bit challenging  wink . I then went down to 1200 wide, and now my standard upload is 1024 - partly because this is easier for so many to look at due to the size of most monitors.

Take care.

Paul


User currently offlineNorfolkjohn From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 251 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3643 times:

Mark,

First thing to say is - cracking shots - all of them  bigthumbsup 

I would totally agree with Paul and the others about changing the size for uploading however. I made the same mistake originally of uploading at too large a size but fortunately one of the screeners was good enough to advise me fairly early on to reduce the size. I generally use 1024 wide by 768 high but in some cases, if I need a bit of extra width I just set the height to 768 and accept what ever width I'm left with provided it is no wider than 1100.

I really like vintage aircraft so I particularly like the B25, Hurricane and C47.

Just one small comment on the C47 shot - purely my personal taste - but I would crop in a little tighter on the right to cut out the wind sock as I find the way the top of it comes over the top of the wing a little distracting.

Like I say - lovely shots.

All the best,

John



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User currently offlineCV747 From Iceland, joined Jan 2000, 170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3636 times:

Hi Marc,
Your pictures are really great.
You got a lot of advices in the messages before which are all good.
The screeners at airliners are nice guys and some have help me a lot with improving the processing.
But please keep your own creativity. The screeners are also people and honestly I do not agree at all with some comments, because I think that some screeners are going to deep into their own opinion on what a picture should look like. I personally like action pictures and close up details. A screener told me once that a perfect picture is taken 90° from the side, registration must be visible, etc. I don't agree, for me, your B-25 picture is close to be a perfect motive. I could not care less about a registration. It is my opinion.

I have reached most popular picture and most uploads of the day, sure, but I have not uploaded for a while because I simply don't want my pictures to be forced into someone elses idealised opinion. Today I only reduce the size to 1280px no more. The screens are growing and 800 or even 1024 will soon be "too small to enjoy".

Keep up the good work. An advice is some thing you can take up, but only if you agree with it.

Olafur


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