Sponsor Message:
Aviation Photography Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Rejected...Please Help...  
User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

I had a photo rejected today with the following rjection reason given:

"These photos appear to have been either overexposed (too bright) or underexposed (too dark). This could be a scanning problem or a
problem with the original photos. Check your original photo, if it appears to be correctly exposed then please change the settings
on your scanner or use a photo manipulating tool to adjust the brightness
of the photos."

I have the following photo still in raw format...here is the version that I submitted:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ns/big/CRW_1874_RT8_N321CY_JAD.jpg

This is a unique photo...it's the only one of this A/C (not) in the database, and it is a unique paint scheme.

Can someone give me advice on how to improve this photo based on the rejection reason above? Again, I have this photo original in RAW.

Thanks, JD

9 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

Hi JD,
what software have you used? I just tried a very quick autofix in Photoshop Elements and the exposure improved immediately. Especially if you have the raw file you could be able to get is sorted. Feel free to send me a mail if you want me to give it a try.
Just one note, I wouldn't call this a unique paint scheme really, as this isn't an airliner I guess.

[Edited 2005-08-11 01:27:42]

User currently offlineNorfolkjohn From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 251 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

Hi JD,

I've had a look at this shot but I think it will be difficult to fix to A.Net standards. The problem seems to be that the aircraft is back lit. There are a few things you could try playing with in combination to see if you can get a better result but I'm not sure how much of an improvement you will get.

1) You could try increasing the mid-tone adjustment in levels. (Enhance > Adjust Brightness / Contrast > Levels)

2) You could try a little bit of fill flash (Enhance > Adjust Lighting > Fill Flash)

3) You could try adjusting the backlighting (Enhance > Adjust Lighting > Adjust Backlighting)

4) You could simply lighten the entire image (Enhance > Adjust Brightness / Contrast > Brightness / Contrast)

Just trying these quickly I would say that playing with 1 and 2 is the best bet but the end result may still not be brilliant.

That's the best I can suggest - perhaps some of the more expert editors can offer better ideas.

All the best

John



One thorn of experience is worth a whole wilderness of warning.
User currently offlineAIHTOURS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2532 times:

Hi,

Where abouts is this Autofix is Adobe CS2? Does it have it to use?

Thanks,
Ryan

[Edited 2005-08-11 01:35:56]

User currently offlineEdoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Quoting AIHTOURS (Reply 3):
Where abouts is this Autofix is Adobe CS2?

I don't know if that function exists in CS2, I'm using Elements 3 instead. Mind you, it's just a "quick fix" thing, in many cases inefficient to reach A.Net quality, but I think it can give a good indication on whether or not a picture can be fixed.

If I can improve a backlit pic with it, I guess that means there may be a chance to fix it, especially if the raw is available. For example by using John's techniques.


User currently offlineC133 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2494 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

The conditions you faced were far from ideal, and bringing that image up to snuff may not be possible. If you still have access to the airplane why not just shoot it again on a better (sunny) day?


Fine: Tax for doing wrong. Tax: Fine for doing well.
User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Quoting Edoca (Reply 1):
I just tried a very quick autofix in Photoshop Elements and the exposure improved immediately.

I tried this and it worked well. I think I need to calibrate my monitor, for it is playing tricks on my eyes. I could have sworn that this image was brighter when I uploaded it. Now that I've lightened the image I can't believe I ever subitted it the way it was. I'm going to start over with the raw file. Thanks for the tips...

Quoting C133 (Reply 5):
If you still have access to the airplane why not just shoot it again on a better (sunny) day?

Unfortunately not an option.
It was the beginning of a sunny day...sunrise. I wanted to catch a little of the red/purple sky behind the plane. Unfortunately I trusted the screen on my 300D and forgot to check the histogram...


User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

It's almost completely backlit; you're going to struggle whatever you do in editing. Do you have any of it from the other side?


James



It takes a big man to admit they are wrong, and I am not a big man.
User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Just to give you an example I had these rejected for backlit!


MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Fergul Mc Clean
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Fergul Mc Clean



Take care

Fergul Big grin  sun 



Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Indeed as said it is tricky one JD. You can have a play with the levels, contrast etc. Just to give you an idea of what you can do with a couple of minutes in CS.
http://www.btinternet.com/~victoryhall/temp/CRW_1874_RT8_N321CY_JAD_JID2.jpg
I would not say its near DB standard but still an interesting one to process.

Jid



G7EPN is back after 15 years! Operating all Bands 80mtrs -> 70cms QRZ DX
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
My Photo Was Rejected, Please Help! posted Sat Jan 10 2004 22:43:33 by BDLGUY
10 Uploaded, 10 Rejected - Please Help? posted Sat Jun 14 2003 05:32:51 by Danielbk
Rejected For Soft... Please Help! posted Tue Jan 31 2006 10:34:07 by PipoA380
Confused With 5 Rejected Photo's Please Help? posted Wed Jun 9 2004 23:48:24 by LHRSIMON
Rejected Again, Please Help posted Thu Feb 12 2004 22:32:25 by Southpaw8669
Rejected - Monitor Problems? - Please Help? posted Fri Aug 15 2003 22:38:50 by Work4bmi
Rejected For Bad Camera Angle, Please Help. posted Sun Jan 12 2003 07:33:38 by Alphazulu
Delta Airlines DC-8-71 Rejected...any Help Please? posted Wed Dec 25 2002 08:30:48 by Blackbird1
Rejected Photos - Please Help! posted Thu Oct 10 2002 15:37:13 by 747 4-ever
Rejected Photos - Please Help! posted Tue Mar 19 2002 07:22:45 by 747 4-ever
10 Uploaded, 10 Rejected - Please Help? posted Sat Jun 14 2003 05:32:51 by Danielbk
Rejected For Soft... Please Help! posted Tue Jan 31 2006 10:34:07 by PipoA380
Confused With 5 Rejected Photo's Please Help? posted Wed Jun 9 2004 23:48:24 by LHRSIMON
Rejected Again, Please Help posted Thu Feb 12 2004 22:32:25 by Southpaw8669
Rejected - Monitor Problems? - Please Help? posted Fri Aug 15 2003 22:38:50 by Work4bmi
Rejected For Bad Camera Angle, Please Help. posted Sun Jan 12 2003 07:33:38 by Alphazulu
Delta Airlines DC-8-71 Rejected...any Help Please? posted Wed Dec 25 2002 08:30:48 by Blackbird1
Rejected Photos - Please Help! posted Thu Oct 10 2002 15:37:13 by 747 4-ever