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Now I'm Puzzled (rejects)  
User currently offlineLHRsunriser From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 399 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2024 times:

Hi all!

I was all optimistic when uploading this set of photos because it was with my new lens.

Then 13 go and get rejected. I don't know where to start. I have sent the photos to many other photographers on MSN they haven't said much was wrong.

I think I am going to post the rejects without reasons so I can see if the reasons are justified.

If this is a bad idea just say and I will add the reject reasons aswell!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/IMG3596edited.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/IMG3283edited.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/IMG3291edited.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/IMG3700edited.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/IMG3772edited.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/IMG3670edited.jpg

I don't see too much to worry about on them?

Cheers Dom - Capital Aviation Photography


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User currently offlineVIR380 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2002, 621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

So what were those 6 rejected for ?

maybe im blind or out of practice , but im puzzled too ...

Love the Kuwait 747 BTW

if anything they could go by the book and say the Lufty regional "motive" for the crop ..

otherwise ... i dunno ..

none really deserve an outright rejection  Sad


cheers Tony

[Edited 2005-08-15 13:02:51]

User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

OK at a very quick glance as I'm at work and my monitor is not up to scratch, here is my take
1 Bad center and Bad quality
2 Bad center
3 Bad Motive
4 Bad center
5 Bad quality Heat haze around the wheels, said that before in another thread!
6 Bad center and Bad quality

Take care

Fergul Big grin  sun 

PS: e-mail me tonight if you want, and I might be able elaborate more on those.



Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

Hi Dom,

1st: A bit soft maybe? Can't think of another reason.

2nd: Baddark? BA's fuselage is blue, not black  Smile

3rd: I dont know.

4th: Baddark again, due to the time of the day I guess.

5th: No idea, I've seen tons of worse photos from the same spot.

6th: Baddark

Well, that's it.  Smile



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineLHRsunriser From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

1.badcontrastbaddark
2.badcontrastbaddark
3.badcontrastbaddark
4.badcontrastbaddark
5.badexposure
6.badsoftbaddark

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/IMG3275edited.jpg

The one above got baddark.

I feel I have been hard done by. Really hard done by.

Search for A6-EAC in the databse there is a photo of it form the same day I think. I think that has more light issues than mine?

I told u some of them Flo :p

Cheers Dom



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

Quoting LHRsunriser (Reply 4):
1.badcontrastbaddark
2.badcontrastbaddark
3.badcontrastbaddark
4.badcontrastbaddark
5.badexposure
6.badsoftbaddark

Thank god I'm not a screener, all wrong.  banghead 
I would never have figured bad contrast and bad dark I guess you'll have to use a flash next time Big grin

Fergul  Smile



Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
User currently offlineRyangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

All look a bit oversharpened to me?

I love the Kuwait 74 though, is it level?

Ryan



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User currently offlineLHRsunriser From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

It's crazy though. Just shows how random the reasons are. You are no mug Fergul to editing.

Cheers Dom



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User currently offlineLHRsunriser From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Well I edited to what I feel is level. But it didn't get badlevel so....

I'm jsut going to have to brighten them all up. Sharpen some. Re upload wait another 7 days then get them rejected for a different reason.

Cheers Dom

[Edited 2005-08-15 13:21:30]


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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5678 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1938 times:
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Dom,

Stay positive.. you have come a long way in a short time.

The acceptances will come.. and many of them.

Regards

Chris



If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

Try not to get to down Dom.... We have all been there and know how frustrating it can be... But try to stay positive. Im sure you will get another day soon where 10 out of 10 are accepted !!!! Big grin

Have to agree with the screeners on their rejections re bad contrast and bad dark. Also love th KU shot. Its a killer spot if the weathers right.... I also thought that it could be bad level so maybe check that out before reuploading.

Simon C
 Smile



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User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1314 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1915 times:

To add my two pence worth. I think your suffering from the infamous grey bottom problem.

1. Grey bottom does it no favours.
2. BA A320 at LHR, nuff said.
3. The tree kills it.
4. Grey bottom
5. I like this shot. This said, depending on what time of day it was taken, suspect around 16.00 the sun is going to be on the nose. Have the sides been touched up? As for the heat haze, that's going to be unavoidable.
As for Ryangooner's comment, "is it level?" just cracks me up! Indeed, there are far worse shots on the d/b taken at that location.
6. Grey bottom.


User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

Dom,

You're in that very fine margin where the images are 95% there, it's just that last 5% is the hardest to achieve, I'd also say you got a fairly hard screener.

I've had a hard time with LHR in the summer, they're common subjects and you've got to get everything just so.

Don't get despondent, you'll get there.


James



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

Not that this will help you much Dom, I had this shot accepted. I used it as a bench mark for the others.

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Photo © Fergul Mc Clean


Then these got rejected for bad dark.  banghead 

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Take care

Fergul    

[Edited 2005-08-15 14:45:42]


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User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3508 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

I would like to hear some screener comment on how these are baddarks? And how is Kuwait baexposure?

The only one I would agree is badsoft for LH CRJ.


User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1861 times:
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HEAD SCREENER

I was going to slag Fergul off in public but found my First Class expired this morning so I had to do it in private. I have still not got even with him for calling me a fat bastard - I am simply well built, not fat!
Anyway, the bad darks all look a bit on the dark side to me and I wonder if you should check or re-check your monitor as these can drift with time.
I think that in the Kuwait jumbo shot the screening has been particularly harsh. Yes, the highlights are verrrryyyy slightly blown but the photo is slightly contre-jour (as Germans say when speaking French) and I think the exposure is spot on.The examples Fergul uses above are good examples of the same type of shot.
I would re-process all of them, though the Kuwait one might be worth an appeal.
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3508 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

I think they are similar to one on my recently accepted photos:

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where it was not dusk/dawn although not a full daylight as well. It was somewhere in between and Dominic's photos reflect that. Why to make day brighter than it was?


User currently offlineJetTrader From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 586 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Dom,

Irrespective of technical or screener considerations - that Kuwait 747 is a great shot!  bigthumbsup 

Keep up the good work and don't be disheartened.

Cheers,
Dean



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User currently offlineLHRsunriser From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

Ok thanks all for the comments it's calmed me down. Ill try and re work some.

I may be going up Thursday so lets try a bit better.

Cheers Dom

Oh and I appealed the Kuwait 74  Smile



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User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

Glad your calmer now......

I know just where your coming from, when I got my new 100-400L, I had EVERY single one rejected from my first batch of uploads...

regards



Canon 550D, 18-55, 50 1.8, 100-400L
User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1710 times:

To be honest, when i first looked at them i thought contrast on a lot of them!

They are good shots and are probably very close to acceptance!

Keep them coming and dont get dis hearted!

Chris



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User currently offlineJon01 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Common aircraft, high summer sun, heat haze, contrast, common airport, high temperatures etc.

We've all been through this.......

Jon


User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2730 posts, RR: 41
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

Quoting Jon01 (Reply 21):
Common aircraft, high summer sun, heat haze, contrast, common airport, high temperatures etc.

We've all been through this.......

Great advice there Jon  Yeah sure

So what your trying to say is that photographers should cease uploading Heathrow shot's from now on? Stop uploading 747's? Stop Shooting in High Temperatures?

Simon.



Simon - London-Aviation.com
User currently offlineLHRsunriser From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1598 times:

Just incase people wondered it got on lol  Smile


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My upload ration was not affected either because I hadn't uploaded 50 photos before the rejections it only changed part way through so it actually went up wooho

Shows improvement!

Cheers Dom



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

Quoting LHRsunriser (Reply 23):
My upload ration was not affected either because I hadn't uploaded 50 photos before the rejections it only changed part way through so it actually went up wooho

It doesn't when you appeal a photo.

But well done good to see it in, feels great doesn't it!  bouncy 

Fergul Big grin  sun 



Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
25 ANITIX87 : How do I find my ratio and my percentages? I haven't been able to in a long time. I know this probably belongs in "Site-Related" but I didn't want to
26 JumboJim747 : Its on the upload page just under the email or photographers name section.
27 Eadster : Out of all those, the one that got accepted is the only one that I thought would not get in. Have a close look at the wheels. They don't look round. I
28 ANITIX87 : I definitely can't find it. Haha...I'll keep looking though, thanks anyway. TIS
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