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User currently offlineSpartan13 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 207 posts, RR: 5
Posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

I need opinions on a photo that was taken during an actual in-flight emergency that occured yesterday while I was riding in the aircraft. To make a long story short our right engine was having trouble so the crew shut down the engine in-flight. In the picture you can actually see the prop feathered. Its the best result I can get as I was strapped in pretty tight. Is this picture worthy of being uploaded? check the link below.

http://www.xplanefreeware.net/~fiveholer/Images/RVS8-16-05.jpg

Ralph


Ralph Duenas - Jetwash Images (Charles Barkley said it best "Oklahoma is a vast wasteland")
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User currently offlineAtomother From United States of America, joined May 1999, 440 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Nice, I like it!

What was the problem with the engine? How was the landing? Any more pictures of the rest of the instruments?


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

I'd say crop as much of the guy out as you can. You can still get the prop in without the distracting pilot.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineSpartan13 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 207 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

Well the problem started enroute to COS. It had something to due with fuel being distributed to the right engine. ATC was notified of the situation but a emergency was not declared yet. We ended diverting to APA because weather was alot better. ATC informed us that they would roll out the equipment at APA just as a precaution. We landed at APA safely and I'll tell you what those last 45mins of the flight were veeerrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy long. A mechanic was flown in from Tulsa to repair the part. Fellow photographer Danny Fritsche also came along so we enjoyed a couple of hours of great spotting at APA. Hours later we were ready to go so we left APA for RVS and about an 1hr out the right engine was beginning to show the fuel/power problems again except this time it was getting worse. It finally got bad enought that my instructor declared the emergency and informed ATC that the right engine would be shut down in-flight. When the engine was shut down it was very smooth. Barely any yaw was fealt, the actual landing was beautiful and smmmmooooth. After rolling off the runway I told my instructor that his one engine landing was better than his 2 engine landings. Danny sorry you had to go through all that yesterday.

I have one photo in the queue of us on final to APA. In the distance you can see the crash/rescue

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/N123SK_APA8-16-05.jpg



Ralph Duenas - Jetwash Images (Charles Barkley said it best "Oklahoma is a vast wasteland")
User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

Haha...there were a few tense moments especially at 17,000 feet near Enid!  Wink Besides that, it was a GREAT experience, one that I won't soon forget! I would go again without hesitation! It was a great day at APA standing next to our plane by the taxiway. Nice spotting there!  Wink Anyway...unfortunately I wasn't able to get any decent inflight shots. I got plenty while waiting for our mechanic to be flown in while at APA. Brian and Chris did a hell of a job bringing our wounded bird down! Well done.

Danny



Bring back Bethune!
User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2731 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2262 times:

IMHO neither of these should be accepted.

The first image with the prop simply doesn't tell the story, and is badly composed etc.

Second photo is the same. Runway is only half visible, the crash vehicles simply are not visible and again, poor composition.

Sorry, while I can appreciate you tried to get something in a difficult situation, they aren't worth uploading.


User currently offlineSpartan13 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 207 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Well I was strapped into my seat during taking the photos so I had very minimal room to work with.


Ralph Duenas - Jetwash Images (Charles Barkley said it best "Oklahoma is a vast wasteland")
User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2731 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

Quoting Spartan13 (Thread starter):
Is this picture worthy of being uploaded?

Please don't get defensive or feel hurt Ralph. You asked for an opinion and all I have done is express one. As I said, I can appreciate the difficulties you faced, but unfortunately even if a photo is difficult to take, it doesn't lower A.net standards.

And remember, you know the details of what is going on. Put yourself in the position where you have no idea what the photos portray. Would you still make sense of them.
Imagine if you will, posting the photos without ANY info what-so-ever and asking this forum, "Can you tell me what's happening in these photos?" And honestly, nobody would probably get it right. For sure NOBODY would spot the emergency vehicles or know this is an emergency landing. The photos simply don't provide the info in a visual way. And the quality is less than A.net standards.

Hang in there, as that's life.

Steve


User currently offlineSpartan13 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 207 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 7):
Please don't get defensive or feel hurt Ralph.

Oh don't worry I didn't take it badly. I did ask for opinions and I got one. Its as simple as that. I was stating that I was seated at the time so it was hard to get a good shot.

Ralph



Ralph Duenas - Jetwash Images (Charles Barkley said it best "Oklahoma is a vast wasteland")
User currently offlineWakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Very interesting story Ralph, I am glad all involved are ok, except maybe the aircraft  Big grin. As for the photos, I agree that even though it is a rare shot and situation with a camera involved it is marginal at best, I have seen all of your shots and enjoy your work, but these two are not your best. Talk to you later.
-Matt



Jetwash Images - Feel the Heat!!!
User currently offlineCboyes From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2101 times:

But on a positive note, at least the horizon is level.

User currently offlineVzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 835 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 7):
Put yourself in the position where you have no idea what the photos portray. Would you still make sense of them.
Imagine if you will, posting the photos without ANY info what-so-ever and asking this forum, "Can you tell me what's happening in these photos?" And honestly, nobody would probably get it right.

Steve, I think the view that the photo itself must always convey everything may be unnecessarily restrictive. The database contains numerous photos that may be of sub-par quality but depict an unusual aircraft, event, or incident, even if the unusual aspect isn't obvious in the shot itself. Properly used, the "remarks" field can be a great enhancement.

-Mark



"That's so stupid! If they're so secret, why are they out where everyone can see them?" - my kid
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