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100% Acceptance Ratio?  
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

Just curious, with all the talk about acceptance ratios and rejections lately...

How many of you have currently, or had an acceptance ratio of 100% over at least your last 50 photos?

I did up until this shot...

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...jections/big/n212feslc081205jm.jpg

I have to hand it to the screener, very good catch. I really can't believe I missed something so simple. And this was after my normal three day "cooling off" period before uploading. By "cooling off", I mean after processing a photo, I normally look at it at least two more days for a total of three separate looks prior to uploading, unless I am pretty sure it is o.k.

Oh, well, at least I made it to 100% once, might be awhile before I get there again.  Smile 98% aint bad by any measure, it just doesn't have the same sense of accomplishment.

-Jeff

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User currently offlineJavibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1371 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Though I do think 100% acceptance IS an achievement, I think I'd be worried if I ever see that figure in my stats, because it would probably mean I am not trying hard enough to submit something out of the ordinary.

You knew I would disagree, didn't you?  Wink

Cheers

j



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3853 times:

Hi Jeff,

Since I am a beginner with only 1 shot accepted and I want to learn from you guys, can I ask what the mistake was? Thanx  Smile



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User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

Quoting Javibi (Reply 1):
Though I do think 100% acceptance IS an achievement, I think I'd be worried if I ever see that figure in my stats, because it would probably mean I am not trying hard enough to submit something out of the ordinary.

Good point...I guess some will strive for 100%, and achieve maximum upload status, but maybe never use it.

I'm sure the crew would like to see 'some' arty/different pics?

A batch of say 300 Boeing 737 pictures must be a little boring to screen?



Canon 550D, 18-55, 50 1.8, 100-400L
User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3835 times:

my acceptance ratio is around 60% - 70% due to the fact that I got a lot of Baddirty rejections ....

Quoting Javibi (Reply 1):
it would probably mean I am not trying hard enough to submit something out of the ordinary.

Yep, see it the same way, also I am not using my slots anyway ... , most of the time I have around 30 pics in the queque ....


Robin



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User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 2):
Since I am a beginner with only 1 shot accepted and I want to learn from you guys, can I ask what the mistake was? Thanx

NOA_borders. Look at the top right corner. Wink

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

Quoting Q330 (Reply 5):
NOA_borders. Look at the top right corner.

Yup, that is it, maybe a dozen pixels.

Quoting Javibi (Reply 1):
I think I'd be worried if I ever see that figure in my stats, because it would probably mean I am not trying hard enough to submit something out of the ordinary.

You knew I would disagree, didn't you?

I always try to get the best image possible, whether it is our boring blue sky shots here in Denver, a simple GA Cessna at the local field, or during my trips. I separate the quality of the image from the uniqueness of the subject.  Wink As to disagreeing? Trust me, it is a breath of fresh air to see an opposing view point rather then the usual smoke getting blown up someone's skirt.  Smile

Quoting Johndm1957 (Reply 3):
I guess some will strive for 100%, and achieve maximum upload status, but maybe never use it.

I agree, I don't really care about the 70 upload slots, during my run to 100%, I don't think I ever had more then 15 shots uploaded on any given day. Dumping 70 shots of anything at one time is too much in my opinion.

-Jeff


User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5678 posts, RR: 45
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3711 times:
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Jeff,

Certainly a remarkable achievement, and some nice shots in that 50, I do like photos with something in the background.
Having said that I tend to agree with Javabi about.. pushing the envelope.. but as a humble 10D using amateur what would I know?  Smile

Regards

Chris

[Edited 2005-08-29 15:38:42]


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User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

Quoting Javibi (Reply 1):
it would probably mean I am not trying hard enough to submit something out of the ordinary.

Noone can blame you for that! Badmotive or top of the day? You don't know unless you try.


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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3579 times:

No one else at 98-100%? Gotta be others...

User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 9):
No one else at 98-100%? Gotta be others...

Not me... The occasional soft, category, info, centered and motiv (I did some 'experimenting'  Smile) rejections dragged me down to 84%...  Smile

Cheers,
Ed


User currently offlineGPHOTO From United Kingdom, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 829 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3560 times:
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Quoting IL76 (Reply 10):
rejections dragged me down to 84%

Being more careful and choosy on my uploads dragged me UP to 84%!  Smile

Having got to these dizzy heights (I used to be a mid-60's person), I feel more confident to upload a couple of more, shall we say, motive risky shots in the future. Just the odd one or two, nothing serious (  Wink ), I wouldn't want to go spiralling down again. I think that having a high acceptance ratio should give you the courage to have a go at something different, after all, with that many successful acceptances, you've probably earned a go. I want to try and keep my acceptance rate above 80%, so if it drops, its back to the tried and tested side-shot formula for a while until it recovers. Trying the boundaries of acceptance, just occasionally, every now and then should be encouraged, I think. How else will you develop as a photographer?

Best regards,

Jim



Erm, is this thing on?
User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 41
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3501 times:

My rejection rate is also above 80%, so count me in!  bigthumbsup 

Oh wait a second . . . you said ACCEPTANCE rate...  hissyfit 

Nevermind.  grumpy 

Drew



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3500 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 12):
Oh wait a second . . . you said ACCEPTANCE rate...

 rotfl 


Fergul  sun 



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User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3475 times:

Well mine is currently 94%, Paul Markman's has been up to 100% but I have not heard from Mr Worm lately so I am not sure what his is currently.

Jid



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User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3466 times:

64.1% woo. ill die trying

 innocent 

im hoping most of that is the crap i used to upload, its getting better now. honest!


User currently offlineTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

I don't care what my acceptance ratio is, & I don't think a 98% acceptance ratio is something to be proud of. If I have an interesting photo & want to share it I upload it. I got photos accepted of which I never thought they would make it & vice versa. It not only depends on the photo itself but also on who you are & who screens your pic--at least in some cases.

Thomas


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3375 times:
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Quoting Jid (Reply 14):
Paul Markman's has been up to 100% but I have not heard from Mr Worm lately

Still there, primarily due to the fact that I have been in Greece for the last fortnight and so have uploaded nothing  wink .

Scared to upload now as it can only be downhill from here  biggrin .

Paul

P.S. The site looks different - seems I have a bit of catching up to do!


User currently offlineTFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 17):
I have been in Greece for the last fortnight

Alright for some eh?  old 

Lew


User currently offlineAnder From Spain, joined Jan 2005, 367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3356 times:

Mine is at 64% at the moment.
I don't really consider it that important (rarely do I get close to the 40 uploads I have) so sometimes I prefer to take some "risk" and upload somewhat different views.
The rejection reasons? motiv, blurry, dark, category..... Smile
Ander



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3321 times:

Quoting TS (Reply 16):
It not only depends on the photo itself but also on who you are & who screens your pic--at least in some cases.

That's quite a statement Thomas. I'm sure there are many that would like to say "prove it".

Quoting TS (Reply 16):
I don't think a 98% acceptance ratio is something to be proud of.

Well, some people do have a problem with precision. It is always easier to hit a target with a shotgun isn't it? But you can never hit just the bullseye with one can you?  

[Edited 2005-08-30 23:33:30]

User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9609 posts, RR: 69
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3305 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Based on your 50 most recently screened photos: Accepted: 49 Rejected: 1
Acceptance Ratio: 98% Photos in DB: 978 In upload queue: 4
Photos allowed in upload queue: 70 Photo uploads available: 66 Why?


User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1282 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 20):
That's quite a statement Thomas. I'm sure there are many that would like to say "prove it".

The screeners have "admitted" this fact on more than one occasion. They are not machines, you know.

If you want some proof, how about appealed (and accepted) photos?

Edit: I'm not saying I disapprove of the fact that screeners *sometimes* see photos differently, I'm just saying that it does happen on occasion.

[Edited 2005-08-30 23:42:46]


You know the gear is up and locked when it takes full throttle to taxi to the terminal.
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9609 posts, RR: 69
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3291 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Show us a thread where a screener has admitted that they screen pictures based on who the photog is....

If you want some proof, how about appealed (and accepted) photos?

So if I show you appealed and rejected shots of mine, or say Peter Unmuth, or TZ will you change your opinion?

Because it happens, all the time.

The bottom line is people change their tune to fit whatever point they are trying to make. Several users of this forum have ripped the screening team saying they give people like Sam Chui special favors, yet no one says a word when said photog gets a ban, right? Because that doesn't support the point you are trying to make.


User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1282 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3275 times:

Clickhappy,

I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say, or perhaps I was not clear.

I never meant to say that screeners screen based on WHO took the photo. What I meant is that while one screener might reject a questionable shot, another might accept it, in some cases. This really only applies to borderline cases - where the shot is not exceptional but it does not have any glaring flaws.

My apologies for the confusion.

A346Dude



You know the gear is up and locked when it takes full throttle to taxi to the terminal.
25 Clickhappy : oh yes, you are correct in that statement, we each have our own things that stand out, which is why the team concept works so well.
26 ANITIX87 : Hey guys sorry to sound naïve. How do I find my acceptance and rejection ratings? I asked in another discussion and was never able to find it, haha a
27 Post contains images Syncmaster : My current acceptance rate is 69.4%, but I'm fairly sure it won't stay there. -Charlie
28 Post contains images AndrewUber : TIS - Go to the photo upload page, click "I have read and understood the above" and then you'll see your photo stats in the photo information block to
29 Post contains images B757300 : Well, I don't have 50 in the DB but since I got my 350D, I was at 100% accepted but now I'm back to good old 0% acceptance. Of course, that is no rea
30 F9Widebody : I know Tamsin's is absurd. Something like one or two photos rejected ever. Or is it none? Regards
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