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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11362 posts, RR: 52
Posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3206 times:

Airliners.net gurus, can any of you explain why this is considered bad motive? The explanations are rather vague, and I'd love to have some input.

Thanks in advance!


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PS, in case you're not familiar, this is a picture of a 737 landing on Runway 19 at Washington National Airport. This approach follows the Potomac River to the runway and has a characteristic sharp right turn 15 or so seconds before touching down.

[Edited 2005-09-12 23:28:19]


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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3177 times:

Im just guessing on this one .
But it looks like the plane went behind the trees in the last few seconds as seen by the broken light trail.
Just my opinion.
Nice shot all the same .
Cheers



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User currently onlineWakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3165 times:

Ya it could be the trees. I also think it could be the light at the bottom, looks like car brake lights. It is somewhat distracting, but I still like the shot. By the way, AA flies the 737-800, not the -700.
-Matt



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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11362 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

so, I should crop and retry it then? I suppose I could also desaturate the brakelights on the cars whizzing by on the freeway.


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User currently offlineWhyWhyZed From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 914 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 3):
so, I should crop and retry it then? I suppose I could also desaturate the brakelights on the cars whizzing by on the freeway.

I believe that would hit you with manipulation then.

- Jason DePodesta


User currently offlineMartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

Quoting WhyWhyZed (Reply 4):
I believe that would hit you with manipulation then.

Just cropping would certainly not be badmanipulation!

I would say that this is a good "photo"*... it has the rule of 3rds, a somewhat-s-curve, and the exposure is alright! I would say that you cannot get this photo up, but I would print it and put it in an album, very nice!

*-Since I consider photography to be a creative art, and going more than the simple "point n' shoot" This photo is great, but for A.net it isn't what they adore.. sadly.



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User currently offlineWhyWhyZed From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 914 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3076 times:

Quoting MartinairYYZ (Reply 5):
Quoting WhyWhyZed (Reply 4):
I believe that would hit you with manipulation then.

Just cropping would certainly not be badmanipulation!

Obviously not, but if you read it all, he's considering desaturating the light so that it doesn't stand out as much. That is manipulating the photo from outside the limits.

- Jason DePodesta

[Edited 2005-09-13 22:37:35]

User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

I like the trees in the shot. They add a bit of depth to the flight path - the aircraft comes in from around them. I think it really adds to the shot.

Personally, I'd tweak it, re-upload and if it's shot down again - I'd appeal it. It is a well done shot, and a bit creative too.  bigthumbsup 

Drew



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User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3039 times:

Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
Airliners.net gurus, can any of you explain why this is considered bad motive? The explanations are rather vague, and I'd love to have some input.

From what I can gather, these shots are NOT accepted any more. I've taken many similar to yours and received the same rejection.

If you notice, shots that are accepted are ones that have the runway in the photo and show a little daylight, either taken on dusk or dawn. The ones in the DB that are similar to yours, were accepted some time ago and from what I have been told, shots like that aren't accepted anymore, which is a shame. I really like taking them and viewing others.

photos like these seem to get in (which are just fantasic!):


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I may be wrong tho! I would really like some clarification on this myself.

Regardless of all that, its a great shot, keep it for your personal collection.

Martin


User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11362 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

Hmm...

Well, unfortunately, the only shots I had with the runway I didn't think were up to snuff.

http://www.geocities.com/thespamtest/On_Takeoff.jpg

and

http://www.geocities.com/thespamtest/Takeoff_and_Landing.jpg

What do yall think?

Thanks again



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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11362 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

Okay, now I really don't get it. This picture was not bad motive, and was taken around the same time mine was. Help anyone?


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